Re: Gail Sand's Buddy New xrays
Claire Vale <clairevale@...>
Hi Gail,
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The x-rays show that he had a bit of rotation back in February - enough to definitely be concerned, although not nearly as bad as some I've seen and worked with (20 degrees or more). There appears to be minimal coffin bone remodelling, which is great. That means you've got a much higher chance of a relatively sound horse at the end of healing. Have you been working on the rotation since February, and if so, is the new wall looking better aligned and connected? When we're dealing with rotation, we do so from multiple angles - we have to get rid of the originating cause if possible, or manage it (e.g. treatment for Cushing's), AND we have to re-balance the feet so that they can heal as best as possible. I'm guessing you're working on the first, and you've got your current farrier working on the second. Here's hoping that you'll be able to find someone to continue on with good hoof care from this point, to keep Buddy progressing. Unfortunately I can't help you with a farrier, however if you're interested in trying out barefoot I can probably help you find someone experienced in founder treatment. My experiences with laminitic and foundered horses are purely from the barefoot perspective, so you'll have to take that into account with what I say <G>. In my experience, I've found that you can indeed start lightly riding a foundered horse after three to six months of healthy wall growth and he's comfortable again. There are a few proviso's, or course: First, that he can feel how his feet are progressing (i.e. he isn't Buted up to the eyeballs and totally oblivious to the damage in his feet), Second, that you listen very carefully to him and only do as much as he is offers freely, and Third, that you begin with slow walking in straight lines and large curves - NO tight turns or faster work that could re-tear the newly growing laminae (even if he thinks he is Muffy the Wonder Horse and wants to do barrel racing - don't let him!). If needed, you can ride with boots and/or pads to help with his comfort levels, but for the most part if he is really uncomfortable without them, he's probably not really ready for riding yet. As Abby said, at this point the newly forming laminae at the top of the wall are very fragile (since there isn't much area of them to hold all of the horse weight), and the slightest mis-step could tear them again and set you right back to the beginning. That's why it's so very important that he is able to feel what's going on with his feet, and choose how much he wants to do at any time (as well as having his feet correctly balanced). The bonus with this is that when HE says he's feeling good and is up to riding again, you know this is true, not a hallucination <G>. Most horses are feeling much better after three to six months, provided of course that the originating cause of the laminitis and founder is removed or controlled. Naturally, there will always be horses that just aren't ready for riding for much longer than one would ordinarily expect, so if he's still indicating that he doesn't want to be ridden nine months later, well, he's telling you that for a reason. If you're still seeing discomfort and evidence of laminitis / founder in a year, you'll have to go back to seeking the originating cause of the laminitis, since it probably isn't fully controlled, and/or re-examine the hoof care. Once Buddy is ready to start being ridden again, whenever that is, you'll have to develop a program of exercise that takes into account his condition. The thing to remember is that you're working with a very slow growing structure (about 1 cm of wall per month) - you can't go from walking one week to cantering the next, because the new laminae just won't be strong enough to take that much force. Your program should move from months of hand walking, to months of riding at a gentle walk, to months of mostly walking with a tiny bit of trot (if he wants to!), etc. By about nine to twelve months after you began treating the laminitis / founder, he theoretically should have a totally new hoof capsule that is now fully attached, and if this is the case you can start thinking about bringing him back into normal work again. Looking at the x-rays, I'm wondering if the farrier thinned the sole at all, as some of the after-trim x-rays show a smaller space between the block and the bottom of the coffin bone (this could be because the wall is trimmed down, and the sole wasn't touched, of course). If the sole was thinned, please please PLEASE make sure this does not happen again - at this time he needs all the healthy sole he can get, most especially at the toe. The other thing is that it doesn't look like the breakover point at the toe was brought back much or at all, and this will be greatly affecting the balance of the internal forces within the hoof capsule as well as continuing to put levering pressure on the toe wall. I've had a great deal of success with a wide range of hoof issues (including severe founder) using Gene Ovnicek's method of determining where the breakover point 'should' be - you can read more at www.hopeforsoundness.com. You can use this method shod or unshod (I've only used it unshod, since I'm a barefoot trimmer). Added to this, I'd suggest you have a really careful look at his frogs to see if you can find any suggestion that he might have thrush or fungus (especially on the side's that are tending to grow longer), since presumably he is trying to keep his weight off them because of some discomfort. In fact, it would probably be worth treating him for fungus even if you don't see any sign of it (e.g. with Borax soaks), since it can hide deep in the frog out of sight and still be quite painful. Abby is right that this year may be a long and frustrating one for the both of you. However, getting it right now will set you up for health and happiness for the rest of your lives together. And it's the perfect opportunity for you both to bond on a new level - you can spend the next few months doing lots of hanging out, grooming, talking, playing, hand walking, etc, to get to know each other better than you might ever otherwise have had the opportunity to do so. Make the most of the situation <G>. Claire Vale New Zealand -----Original Message-----
From: ECHoof@... [mailto:ECHoof@...] On Behalf Of sand_gail Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 3:44 a.m. To: ECHoof@... Subject: [ECHoof] Re: Gail Sand's Buddy New xrays --- In ECHoof@..., Abby Bloxsom <dearab@...> wrote: Abby Thank you for your advice! I went thru 4 different farriers since last June 2006 , when I knew something was wrong with Buddys feet but they all told me I was crazy, that there wasn't anything wrong, that I just had to ride him more. That it was a training issue! I was persistant until I found a farrier and vet that were willing to take xrays and get to the bottom of the issues! Now that we are on track healing Buddy, another issue has come up. My farrier no longer wants to take me as a client ( long story...)I am so afraid of getting an unexperienced farrier, one not familiar with the founder recovery process. My vet rercommended a farrier but it seems he is too busy to take on another client. I live in southeast Chandler, Arizona.....can anyone recommed a GOOD farrier that does both balancing and shoes???? Is it ok to just ride Buddy at a walk for short periods, say 15-30 minutes? NO trotting etc.? Both my vet and farrier have been insisting I ride Buddy hard for a minimum of 30 mins daily going all the way back to Feb. and I have REFUSED, my gut feeling said not to do it! They are not happy with me, but it is MY HORSE not theirs! I'm glad I followed my own instinct. Another vet will be pulling blood to check his insulin/gluclose ration within the next 2 wks hopefully. I am soaking his hay and giving him the Horsetech Az Mineral mix, Magox and iodized salt. I will be adding Vitamin E soon...any advice is welcomed. I love this sight! Gail http://pets.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ECHoof/photos/browse/dcb3two things ...xrays. We can see the bony column alignment, but the fragileattachments inside the foot are not visible on xrays. I would need to seepictures of the feet to see where the growth markers are on the outside inorder to gauge progress of his hoof function. Just because his coffinbone is now parallel to the outside of his foot does not meanhe's "derotated". The outside of the wall has been trimmed to match the bone, butthat NOW that his feet are realigned, we can begin counting one yearfrom THIS date before he should be ridden. That of course is based onlyon the xrays I've seen and without any knowledge of anything elseabout Buddy ... In February, he was significantly rotated. That's stilllong recuperation process - is why we prefer to avoid rotation in thefirst place! I am frustrated on a daily basis by trimming & consultingtheir horses ever are pushed over the edge into laminitis, because I'mcertain that rotation is right around the corner. |
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