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Re: Sole hardeners

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Venice Turpentine is an old stand-by that works fine and is inexpensive, esp. compared to many of the fancier products on the market today. It's a plain sole toughener that doesn't contain other ingredients for coating, protecting and/or treating bacterial/fungal infections that can be a part of why the horse is tender footed.

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Lavinia

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: Sole hardeners

 

I hesitate mentioning this because no one else has and it may be an absolute no-no these days.  Years ago, before there were lots of ‘products’ for this, we used to use Venice Turpentine.  I don’t know what it is or how it works but I would guess as some sort of drying agent.  I used it once for a horse that I wanted to transition from shoes to barefoot.
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Martha in Vermont
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
July 2012

 
 
 


Re: Sole hardeners

Daisy Shepherd
 

any more info for plus foot spray; i cannot find with that name?  thank you, daisy and tiko


Re: Sole hardeners

Maria Duran
 

Hi Bobbie,

I don´t know to be honest. Maybe you can try a search on Google to see what is available in your area. Where are you from? Or maybe in Amazon.

If you don´t find it, I believe the closest thing is Keratex Hoof Hardener suggested here.


Re: Sole hardeners

Bobbie Day
 

Marie
Is that something that is only available in your area?
I would like to give it a try
Bobbie


Re: Jiaogulan dose

suzy zarek
 

Thank you Lavinia. The file link is very helpful!
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Suzy Nebraska 2019


Re: Sole hardeners

Maria Duran
 

Just to inform that I am loving Plusfoot spray. I had used it 4 times in alternating days and I am amazed at how I feel the sole and the frog. They look stronger, the sole and the frog stopped falling apart with the classical cholky appearance and the frog looks much more like it should.

I believe it is working as I expected by drying excess humidiy so I will space the applications very soon and keep it only when needed.

Cindy, no answer from Hoof Armor dealer.


Re: Uneven hoof development

Maria Duran
 

Thank you very much Lavinia.

I will pay more attention knowing this. I believe his case is medial wall more upright but if almost all horses load more weight at either medial or lateral side, why are not all hooves showing this distorted form?

I think I am going to take some pics on tuesday so that you can see it.

Thank you.


Re: Uneven hoof development

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Hi Maria,

Depends on the individual horse. Some things to consider:
  - lateral wall is flared so sole appears wider to compensate
  - medial heel run further forward, twisting hoof capsule laterally
  - medial-lateral imbalances
  - entire hoof capsule has shifted laterally
  - medial wall more upright, which is common and will make the entire medial side of the foot narrower
  - everything is as it should be and that is correct for that horse/hoof

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Lavinia

Moderator/ECIR Support


Uneven hoof development

Maria Duran
 

Hi all!

Do you know what´s the reason for an uneven hoof development when you see it from it´s sole view? When I pick up the hoof (it is a hind one and barefoot) and divide it in a straight line from the center of the heel bulbs longitudinally to the toe, the sides left at each side of this line are not equal. The sole area in medial is much more smaller than the one in the lateral side.

I hope I managed to explain this correctly.

Thank you!

María Durán
Madrid, Spain.


Re: Jiaogulan dose

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 
Edited

The dose for Jiaogulan is "to effect" - whatever it takes to turn the gums/tongue a deeper pink/red. See the file here:

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/filessearch?q=jiaogulan

I believe you are confusing Alcar (which we were discussing in a recent post) with jiaogulan.

HPA = hoof-pastern axis

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Lavinia

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: Pete Ramey DVDS

suzy zarek
 

Mary I have Under the Horse DVD's I would be happy to give you. Send me your address if you would like them.
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Suzy Nebraska 2019


Jiaogulan dose

suzy zarek
 

Is the dose for Jiaogulan 1g for 100lbs or 1g for 500lbs? 
Also I haven't had as much time as I would like to look at posts from this group. What I have seem on hoof advice looks great. The terminology is different from what I am use to but have figured most of it out, except HPA. What does HPA stand for?
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Suzy Nebraska 2019


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

That's strange customs held it so long, Pat.  I've been getting vitE,  jiaogulan and just recently ALCAR from my best horse (4 separate orders over the last year) and I find it takes about 2 weeks.  Maybe you had a bad 1-off experience with customs delays?   I hope it's faster this time!

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Kirsten Rasmussen
Kitimat, BC, Canada


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
 

Thanks Lavinia 
I’ll order some from Best Horse then. I bought my Jiagulan from them but customs held it 9 weeks. 

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Pat and Savannah


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Yes, you can use the alcar intended for humans but it's not cost effective or simple. Horse dosing is 1g/100lbs body weight, so for an average 1000lb horse that's 10g.

As it's usually in 500mg capsule form, you'd need to feed at least 20 capsules per day. Better alternative is to purchase the powder. It dissolves almost instantly in water, so makes it easy to either mix into the food or syringe in if needed. My Best Horse and Bulk Supplements are two good sources for it but don't know about shipping to Canada.

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Lavinia

Moderator/ECIR Support


Not urgent - arginine

jessica skene
 

Hi all,

just wondering, is arginine is natural or is it synthetically made in pharmaceuticals?
just wondering


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
 

Can I buy alcar people kind at drug store?  
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Pat and Savannah


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

LJ Friedman
 

on main page, where this is going. nsny of us use alcar. with jiagoulan. movease too? id ask for a pain med boost? to add to the jiagoulan??


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LJ Friedman San Diego nov 2014

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/LJ%20and%20Jesse


Re: Need advice please re Savannah’s Jan 22 trim photos

Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
 

LJ
I dont give anything for pain. Wears boots when required. Jaiagulan BID is all she gets that might help with pain. Bute and Previcox aren’t recommended for IR horses.  
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Pat and Savannah

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