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Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

lmittler@...
 

Jeanne,

I just became a dealer for Equine Fusion boots because my clients had so many issues with Cloud boots falling apart over the last few months. EasyCare didn’t seem concerned about the issues so I found a replacement boot. I LOVE the Recovery boots! I already have a few horses in them and they love them too! Equine Fusion boots are so well-made, great quality! I love that you can toss them in the washing machine to clean them up. Just wanted to share in your joy! Lol! 

Lisa Mittler
Barefoot Hoof Practitioner 
South and Central Texas
January 2019


Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

Jeanne Q
 

Hi Judy
Glory and I are both loving the Equine Fusion Recovery boots.  She has been turned out in them for the last four days in a fresh snow.  The boot tread does not collect snow and has better traction than the Clouds.  She seems more comfortable than in her Clouds, which is huge!  The neoprene top allows for hooves not perfectly shaped, like Glory, as it stretches to conform.  The elastic strap is an interesting design that wraps up the hoof wall to conform the neoprene to the hoof.  The top is close fitting so snow doesnt get in.  Break over is better than the Clouds but I still will be taking a rasp to the toe of the boot to get an even earlier breakover.  My only reservation is the zippers.  So far they have worked fine but my experience with zippers and horse boots tells me this may become a problem.  They are not 100% waterproof.   Rather, I would say water resistant.  Glory was just a the top measurement of size 11 so I had them send sizes 11 and 12.  The 12 is perfect for putting in a thick wool pad or 12mm Comfort Pads and then a wool sock on her hoof.  Im keeping both pairs as I like them so much.  Hope this helps!  Best of luck!!

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Jeanne and Glory
Minnesota
Jan 2020 



Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

Judy and Bugsy
 

Thanks for the responses.  Jeanne, could you keep me posted about the Equine Fusion boots?  I oiled the Cavello's Simple which made them much softer/pliable but haven't tried them again since.


Re: Glue-on boots with pads

Deb Walker
 

Maxine...I don't check this subgroup often, but this came up on my radar. After trying Scotty in about a gazillion kinds of glue on shoes, and also Forma-Hoof, it became apparent that NONE of them were going to keep him comfortable or stay the long run. When I went back to the best boot that he likes (Clouds) and transitioned from the Cloud pad to the Soft Ride pads, he was immediately more comfortable and has virtually been in them for 1 1/2 years or so. Working really hard now, with corrective trims, to transition him out of boots. It's a process. I really wanted the glue on ones to work...basically because a lot less work for *me*...but they didn't.
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Deb and Scotty I/R & PPID
Northwest Illinois, May 13, 2019
Case History:
 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deb%20and%20Scotty
Photos:
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90619


Re: collateral ligament, arthritis coffin bone

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

If the the extra-long trim cycle exacerbated that old injury, getting the trim really tightly balanced should help enormously. Agree with the vet that he might also benefit from some short-term NSAID therapy to help control any lingering inflammation.
Depending on exactly what the joint issue is, an injection may also benefit.

Moving forward, things to try would be the usual joint supplements: chondroitin, glucosamine, HA, Mov-Ease. If this has become a chronic issue, products containing devil's claw may provide relief. It does take some trial and error to find what works best for each individual as everyone's reactions to the different supplements are different.

You can send the rads to me at:  shilohmom @ outlook . com  (remove the spaces)

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: collateral ligament, arthritis coffin bone

Daisy Shepherd
 

 thank you lavinia .whisper is a horse i gave away about 2 1/2 years ago; he just was not happy with steady work, i was his 9th owner in his 10 1/2 years;  it was  about 8 months before  i gave him away he was dx with ultrasound of collateral ligament issue tx with shock wave with much improvement  and was sound when he left.  i see him on a regular basis as he still holds my heart. he is bare foot, does lite trail riding and is quite happy.  he started being gimpy about 6 weeks ago and was in need of trimming for about 2 months, his owner does her own trimming , does a really good job but had multiple health problems that all came together so was behind on her trimming. when i lunged him he was quite happy to w,t,c both directions, could see gimpness both directions but only from right front which is where the original ligament occurred  ;  he got his trim and greatly improved  but not gone.  he does not react when leg is palpated. i paid for a vet call,  she said from exam he looked improved, had some arthritic changes of coffin bone, felt it was more arthritic than ligament. when  the vet texted me she did not say she did xray i just assumed and i have not heard back from her.  plan is to do  lite exercise 3 to 4x per week and see how he is in about 6 weeks ,he is 17 years.  i will pay for his supplement to help with arthritis, also will keep up with his trim.  any arthritis supplement suggestion greatly appreciated, i will always have his best interest in my heart. if i get xray info what is your email?  thank you so much, daisy and tiko and whisper


Re: collateral ligament, arthritis coffin bone

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Do you have the radiographs available, Daisy?

If it's an arthritis issue Tendon EQ won't help.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


collateral ligament, arthritis coffin bone

Daisy Shepherd
 

maybe lavinia can help.  whisper, haflinger, 17 years;  lameness right front, much improved with well balanced trim, arthritis from xray, lives out 24/7 hugh dry lot.  gimpness worsened with over due trim; vet suggest injection of coffin joint  , to use bute or equinoxx as needed for pain ;  i wonder about the uckele products tendon eq and/or their hemp joint supplement.   any suggestions greatly appreciated. thank you, daisy and tiko and whisper


Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

Jeanne Q
 


--I had a very similar reaction with Cavellos with Glory.  The heel of the boot was definitely not a fit for her at this time.  She would also nose the boot to show her dislike.  For now she is back in her Clouds but I have a pair of Equine Fusion Recovery's on the way to try.  Hopefully, they will be her winter boots.  The snow is already flying! 

 

 

Jeanne Q Minn. 


Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

valerie pedersen
 

We find the Cavallo Trek boots comfortable, but there is a breaking in period, as they may have mentioned to you. The leather stretches a bit, like a shoe. They even have a short video describing it. I hope you figure it out, as we have had great luck with them.
Valerie and Sydney


Re: Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Sounds like the boots just aren't a good match for his feet at this time for some reason. That may change over time as his hooves become healthier or it might always remain a mismatch.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Cavallo Simple Boots Are Uncomfortable

Judy and Bugsy
 

I really like the design and simple use of my new Cavallo Simple Boots but as soon as I put them on Bugsy, he immediately starts lifting up the booted hoof. When both boots are on, he alternates them. His nose/mouth goes to the back of the boot showing me it’s uncomfortable around the heel bulbs. As soon as the boots are removed, he stands still. I’ve been in contact with the manufacturer and they are not sure what is bothering him. The sizing is confirmed correct. I tried a very thin pad but that didn’t make a difference. Bugsy is used to boots and wraps so that’s not the issue  


Anyone else have this experience? If so how did you resolve it?

Thanks!

Judy and Bugsy
Saskatchewan
Spring 2020


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Re: please review samsons recent xrays

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

You're not the only one, Ellen.

I think it may be because the links were added manually to Vicki's signature without hitting "enter" after the link to make it "live". You can just copy/paste them into your browser to make them work as is.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: please review samsons recent xrays

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Not a silly question.

I can do them even with the shoes but they won't be as precise as ones without because I can't see parts of the hoof.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: please review samsons recent xrays

 

Vicki, for some reason your case history link and your photo link are no longer 'blue' and 'clickable' ... am I the only one with this problem??
 
Ellen
N. Alabama
 


Re: please review samsons recent xrays

vicky monen
 

Thank you so much!  Can mark ups be done even though he has shoes on??  Maybe thats a silly question.

Thanks so much! 
Vicky Monen and Samson
Aug 2015, Alpharetta Ga.
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1226
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Vicky%20and%20Samson


Re: please review samsons recent xrays

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 
Edited

Hi Vicky,

The toes need to be brought back further - RF more than LF. Because the soles are already too thin, absolutely NO trimming of the soles for any reason.  I can't tell for sure but the heels are also likely to be somewhat underrun so need to be left alone, as his HPA is broken back, with a palmer angle that is too low. This is exacerbating his ringbone as well as putting pressure on the tendons and ligaments. Both feet are slightly laterally high, flaring medially to compensate.

Having a current set of hoof photos would help with making more specific suggestions as well as providing mark-ups if you want them.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: please review samsons recent xrays

vicky monen
 
Edited

What exactly do I need to tell my farrier about the trim to have him correct it?  

Vicky Monen and Samson
Aug 2015, Alpharetta Ga.
 


Re: Scientific evidence that too much Calcium causes sidebone?

Susan
 

Thanks, I saw someone making that claim and it seemed kind of fishy to me.
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Susan in BC 2020
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