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Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Josephine Trott
 

Hi Maria

Frank Orza of Hoofwings says he has Hoofwing customers all over the world. They order their Hoofwings by emailing the outlines and measurements of their horse's hooves to Frank. You can email him at hoofwings @ hoofwings . com  All the instructions are on their website.  I'm putting in extra spaces in the email address so yahoo doesn't get upset.

I know of another possible solution that doesn't involve boots that a Grand Prix level trainer in Thailand has used to transition all his PRE stallions to being barefoot (shod their whole lives, some with thin soles, some with distorted hoof capsules) because he couldn't get a decent shoer to come regularly.  UC Davis farrier shop also recommends it.  It's called Formahoof.  The website is formahoof . com

Just a couple options in case your DIM experiment doesn't work out for you.
Best
Josie
Davis CA 12/09



Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Maria,

The DIM is fairly easy to use, it comes with two types and you mix roughly equal amounts together in your hands until the colours blend.  Then just pack it into clean collateral grooves and the concavity in the hoof to make a fairly flat base.  It solidifies into a rubber.  I've heard of at least one person who mentioned using it in boots, but because it can come loose and move around I think its usually better to use it with casts, which will hold it in place.  For casts, you can also pad the outer wall of the heel with it so that there is some room for the heel to expand.  The casts shouldn't irritate the heel bulbs because they should not be applied above the hoof wall.  When I put them on, if I go a little above the hoof wall (easy to do when you're trying to get the hoof wrapped quickly), I trim it off with a hoof knife so that it is not touching skin/hair.  If there is no heel (ie, it is really underrun) then you probably can't use casts because they will fall off.

Let us know how your idea works out!

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Kirsten Rasmussen
Kitimat, BC, Canada


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Josephine and Martha, thank you!

Josie yes we have tried protecting her heels inside the boot with socks and wraps. I don´t think we can try those boots here in Spain but thank you anyway. We have tried 5 different boots for her besides casts, glued shoes, etc and it is all very expensive. Today will arrive a new pair of Equine fusion, lets see if those work the miracle.

Kirsten, I have found the DIM and already purchased it, I don´t know how do you use it, but I am going to try something that I have been imagining in my head. It goes like this: I will make a matrix with the alginate of an old iron shoe of the mare, then I will fill the matrix with the confort hoof pad which is a nice flexible but firm resin (if you don´t get burned in the process haha). This way I will have two resin shoes that I will try to glue with adhere into her soles. Just like an iron shoe but glued and of resin material.

I am hoping that her soles will be rised from the ground and protected whithout losing hoof flexibility, expansion and function. Hope it stays for long there and work. I have nothing to lose from trying. 

Any tips from experienced people will be very much appreciated to polish my idea.

Thank you all.


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

 

For some reason, I could not get Josie’s link to open so I searched for the product online and found this link.  Hoping this helps someone.

 
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Martha in Vermont
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July 2012

 
 
 


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Josephine Trott
 

Hi Maria
Have you tried Hoofwings? www.Hoofwings.com
They help laminitic horses be comfortable without needing pads. Great for riding in also. Maybe better for your heel problem than other styles of boot. I presume you’ve tried wrapping a layer or two of vetwrap around the heels before putting boots on?
Best
Josie
Davis CA 12/09 


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

I would like to add that the company advices no to use it over thin soles, but doesn´t explain why. I believe this might be a cause.


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Hi Candis,

Because I was concerned about this issue I poured some product in a cardboard, it got solid just in a few seconds so that I could touch it, it was absolutely impossible to stand the heat with my hand, it was burning like hell and it stayed like that for a minute or so. Maybe the horn of the sole can isolate this heat and is not passed into the sensitive internal corium but I was quite scared at how much it burned.


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Hi Kirsten,

Casts were tried months ago but she has a veeeeeery sensitive skin and they made cuts and bruises in her heelbulbs. We really have a problem because she gets bruises in her heelbulbs very easily, her skin is very thin, this is why we haven´t found yet a boot that accomodates her. It is quite frustrating.

Is dental impression something that can be purchased easily? How would be used?


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

candis gerulsky
 

Hi Maria, 
How did you know how hot this got? Not familiar with the product, but I battle the same problem. 
Candis Gerulsky 


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Dental impression material.

It can be used in casts to help cushion the sole and heel area.  You could try casts instead of boots and pads.  There's a bit of a learning curve to apply them but they won't rub.  I tried this last year for my horse and found he was slightly more comfortable in his boots with pads, but some horses do very well with casts.

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Kirsten Rasmussen
Kitimat, BC, Canada


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Hi Jennifer and Kirsten,

Thank you so much for your help. We have been applying Hoof Armor for months, still on it but as this help not to wear down too much the soles, she still needs protection. She is on boots and pads but they rub the heel bulbs and we have tried several boots.

I am happy that I tested the resin first on a cardboard and not in her soles.

What is DIM?

Thank you.


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Jennifer
 

You could try Hoof Armor:

https://hoofarmor.com/


But if the soles are really that thin you may need to boot/pad/glue on shoe (of some combination that works for the horse) to get the pressure off the sole...
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Jennifer Krogel, Central Florida, 2020

GS: NRC Plus, NAT, MPG, Deworming, Vaccines, BRR
NS: Arthritis
MS Biology
Certified Mackinaw Dells 2 Applied Whole Horse Hoof Care


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Sorry Maria, no experience with it, but from what you are describing it sounds like it might be too hot to apply to thin soles.  Can you use DIM  instead?

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Kirsten Rasmussen
Kitimat, BC, Canada


Re: Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Anyone experienced with these kind of products over thin soles can help?

I would like to know if it can be applied over very thin soles or if the mare is going to experience burn and damage to internal blood vessels or tissues.

Thank you.


Comfortmix hoof pad

Maria Duran
 

Hi all 
I would like to protect the front hoof soles of a mare with Comfortmix Hoof Pad but I am quite concerned about how hot the product becomes over the very thin soles.

Collateral groove reading is only 0.5 cm at the apex and 2 cm at the heels.

Do you have experience with this? Will it cause more harm than good in the soles?

I have tested it in a cardboard just to see how it behaves before using it and it burns like hell for a long time.

Do you advice using it in thin soles? What's your experience?

Thank you very much.

María Durán.
Madrid, Spain.


Re: Trimming

Mary M.
 

Hi Jean, 
Kudos to you for taking active role in your horses hoof trimming. I am not sure where you are located, but i highly recommend Ida Hammer for learning about trimming your own horse. Her website is https://mackinawdells2.com/index.html

many of the trainings and information are online and i believe you can order "model hoofs" to practice on. I am attending her 3 day workshop for the 3rd time here in Michigan in a couple weeks. I took her trainings  twice and this is my 3rd. I always learn something new and good to get refresher. I have been trimming my mare for a couple years after not getting good results from farrier. 

good luck
Mary
--
Mary Marzec, Chelsea MI, 2012
Mary/Katie Case HIstory


Barefoot trimmer palm beach county fl

Suzy Berkowitz
 

Hi. Does anyone know of a farrier in the palm beach county area of Florida?


Re: Hoof trim examples somewhere?

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Hi Michele,

Sorry to hear things didn't turn out as planned and that Mosey is so sore. Good idea to put padded boots on him as long as he's uncomfortable. The general ideas on the link are sound but how they are implemented can be problematic.

There could be a number of factors involved here but without pictures of the trim there's no way to make any specific comments. Some things to consider would be: was any sole and/or frog removed? were the bars heavily trimmed? were the heels lowered? Is he sore on all four feet or only some?

It's possible he had trapped collections inside that the trim is mobilizing = abscesses. These can more debilitating/painful than laminitis. His body may be needing to adapt to the new configuration of his feet, which can make the body sore as it uses itself in ways it hasn't done in a long time.

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Lavinia
Jan 2005, RI

Moderator/ECIR Support


Re: Angle grinders

Debra
 

I have a Proxxon that I just started using. So far I'm happy with the size and weight.
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2009 TB rescue mare, adopted 2017
Member since March 2019
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Re: Hoof trim examples somewhere?

Michele Einarson
 

My gelding's insulin is up again, so, fearing that his laminae is weakened, I sent this article to my trimmer prior to his trim last Tuesday.  I explained that I thought the photos looked extreme, but the diagrams made sense to me.  After his trim, my horse is dead lame.  I've put EasyBoot Clouds on him so he can move around his corral.  What next?  I'll get photos ASAP.
https://www.all-natural-horse-care.com/toe-rocker.html
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Michele & Mosey
Feb 2019
Reno, NV, USA

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