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Re: Aletheia and new shoes

Abby Nemec
 

Sherri Soper wrote:

The bad news is he says (and I think I have known this for a long
time) that the long term prognosis is not good due the bone loss
particularily on the left -
Sherri - just a heads up (will cover this in more depth when we get your thread moved back over to the main site) that bone loss is not necessarily the kiss of death. She may never be ridable again, but you may be able to keep her quite comfortable on her damaged feet once you find a solution that works (which it sounds like you might have done).

Hang tightly,
-Abby


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Re: hmmm....

goddess03259 <threecatfarm@...>
 

Ann Marie -

I moved them to Bullet's file

Nancy C

--- In ECHoof@..., "whitehorsebullet" <whitehorsebullet@...> wrote:

My photo's showed up as Alethia...and I am Ann-Marie and my horse is
Bullet.....I have more to add as well


hmmm....

whitehorsebullet
 

My photo's showed up as Alethia...and I am Ann-Marie and my horse is
Bullet.....I have more to add as well


How to take hoof Photos

goddess03259 <threecatfarm@...>
 

Hi Sherri and Ann Marie and list members

Just wanted to point you to the file "How to get good Hoof Photos" in the files section at the
ECHoof home page. It's a quick and easy guide to getting photos that will maximize input
from the group.

Let me know if you have problems viewing!

Thanks

Nancy C and Beau and Gabe in NH


Re: Aletheia and new shoes

Nancy Collins <threecatfarm@...>
 

Hi Sherri

Glad Aletheia is having good days.

Getting the xrays and pics up will be good.  When you do that will you please post on the main list (or I can move you over there :-))  We want to try to keep the discussions about our individual IR/Cushings horses over there if possible.  You’ll get maximum input and folks who may be in the same place will have a better chance of seeing the discussion.

Thanks very much

Nancy C
Monitor/Moderator


On 2/27/07 10:00 AM, "Sherri Soper" wrote



I took Aletheia last Friday to a Vet (of a good horsey friend of
mine) in Missouri who has consulted with me and my Farrier
telephonically for the past few months - very experienced and
succussful with founder.  
She got new shoes yesterady - an eggbar of sorts set way back with
no pressure on the toe he tells me at all.... and set up with the
equine digital support pink stuff.  He initially told my friend we
shall see how she does in 48 hours (she was there about the time
they finished).  The vet called last night and said she was moving
substanially better - out about 4 hours and was talking and eating
like a pig......  His wife called this morning and said she is
better yet.  
The bad news is he says (and I think I have known this for a long
time) that the long term prognosis is not good due the bone loss
particularily on the left - and that that is why I can't keep her
comfy for long periods of time - but to hang in there - lets see
what we can do and then day by day and down the road a bit - judge
quality of life - but for right now we are having GOOD DAYS.

I will post pics when I can get some of how he has her shoed.

Sherri and Leth

 
    


Aletheia and new shoes

Sherri Soper <ssoper@...>
 

I took Aletheia last Friday to a Vet (of a good horsey friend of
mine) in Missouri who has consulted with me and my Farrier
telephonically for the past few months - very experienced and
succussful with founder.
She got new shoes yesterady - an eggbar of sorts set way back with
no pressure on the toe he tells me at all.... and set up with the
equine digital support pink stuff. He initially told my friend we
shall see how she does in 48 hours (she was there about the time
they finished). The vet called last night and said she was moving
substanially better - out about 4 hours and was talking and eating
like a pig...... His wife called this morning and said she is
better yet.
The bad news is he says (and I think I have known this for a long
time) that the long term prognosis is not good due the bone loss
particularily on the left - and that that is why I can't keep her
comfy for long periods of time - but to hang in there - lets see
what we can do and then day by day and down the road a bit - judge
quality of life - but for right now we are having GOOD DAYS.

I will post pics when I can get some of how he has her shoed.

Sherri and Leth


Re: When is it safe to ride?

whitehorsebullet
 

--- In ECHoof@..., "John Stewart" <john_the_vet@...>
wrote:

Hi Ann-Marie,

There are too many "it depends" to give a straight answer to
this. Some of
the things it depends on are;
How severe was the laminitis episode? moderate in one hoof/slight
in other
Was it the first time or has he had it before?first time
Do you think you know what set it off? i think a twisted shoe
possibly or maybe Cushings
Was there rotation of the pedal bone and, if so, was the rotation
relative
to the hoof capsule, the line of the pastern or to the ground?
that i am not sure of. i will get you a picture of his radiographs
(old and new)
If IR or Cushing's were involved in setting the laminitis off,
have you
sorted the diet or giving pergolide? he is on 1 mg pergolide
What is the angle of the trim of the hoof; high heel or low heel?
i will post pictures soon
Are they ordinary shoes, or is there support to the frog or the
back of the
foot? there was support with a regular shoe until this last
shoeing when farrier didn't think he needed it anymore
Has the breakover of the shoe been brought back or is it just a
normal shoe
positioned normally on the foot? don't know

If trimmed and shod so that the levering forces are not minimised,
then the
longer you will have to wait to exercise him safely.
Can you post photographs of Bullet's feet? i will hopefully take
some tomorrow and post them.
(photos taken from ground level -camera on the ground, from in
front of the
foot, directly from the side and one of the sole as well)
Cheers

John


My horse is recovering from laminitis/founder. He is no longer
rotated and his "new" hoof is about 1/4 new . He is showing no
signs
of lameness and hasn't for a couple of months. My farrier says
to
wait basically till he has a whole new hoof. and yes, he is
still on
front shoes. I would love
to start doing some light riding on him, but of course i don't
want to
jeapardize his health. Thanks,
Ann-Marie and Bullet


Re: When is it safe to ride?

John Stewart
 

Hi Ann-Marie,

There are too many "it depends" to give a straight answer to this. Some of the things it depends on are;
How severe was the laminitis episode?
Was it the first time or has he had it before?
Do you think you know what set it off?
Was there rotation of the pedal bone and, if so, was the rotation relative to the hoof capsule, the line of the pastern or to the ground?
If IR or Cushing's were involved in setting the laminitis off, have you sorted the diet or giving pergolide?
What is the angle of the trim of the hoof; high heel or low heel?
Are they ordinary shoes, or is there support to the frog or the back of the foot?
Has the breakover of the shoe been brought back or is it just a normal shoe positioned normally on the foot?

If trimmed and shod so that the levering forces are not minimised, then the longer you will have to wait to exercise him safely.
Can you post photographs of Bullet's feet?
(photos taken from ground level -camera on the ground, from in front of the foot, directly from the side and one of the sole as well)
Cheers

John

My horse is recovering from laminitis/founder. He is no longer
rotated and his "new" hoof is about 1/4 new . He is showing no signs
of lameness and hasn't for a couple of months. My farrier says to
wait basically till he has a whole new hoof. and yes, he is still on
front shoes. I would love
to start doing some light riding on him, but of course i don't want to
jeapardize his health. Thanks,
Ann-Marie and Bullet


When is it safe to ride?

whitehorsebullet
 

My horse is recovering from laminitis/founder. He is no longer
rotated and his "new" hoof is about 1/4 new . He is showing no signs
of lameness and hasn't for a couple of months. My farrier says to
wait basically till he has a whole new hoof. and yes, he is still on
front shoes. I plan on switching to a barefoot trimmer, but it is
proving to be harder to find one locally than i thought. I would love
to start doing some light riding on him, but of course i don't want to
jeapardize his health. Thanks,
Ann-Marie and Bullet


photo entry error

John Stewart
 

Eleanor or Robin

I failed to click the new album rather than add to old. I have added
things to Radiographs by mistake. Sorry - please can you remove for
me.

John

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