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Valeree Smith
I am reaching out to the collective wisdom of the pros in this group.
For a horse with a bit of high and low ringbone.....and a CB that is ground parallel........have you had better results with shoes and pads or barefoot?
Thanks.
Valeree
SoCal
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
Hi Valeree,
The ground parallel coffin bone is contributing to the ringbone situation by compressing the pastern joint capsules along the dorsal edges. It is also detrimental to the navicular bone and the tendons, ligaments along the back of the leg. You need to correct the ground parallel situation. This generally involves backing up the toes and correcting underrun heels so that the bony column gets aligned properly. That means there should be frequent trim adjustments made, which are difficult-to-impossible to do when shoes are on. Shoes will also not allow underrun heels to stand up as they continually compress them in a squashed down orientation. -- Lavinia Jan 2005, RI Moderator/ECIR Support |
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Valeree Smith
Hi Lavinia,
Is it ever possible to 'correct' a ground parallel CB and have the horse comfortable barefoot?
Just as background, I've gone back and forth over a few years with having this horse barefoot and shod with pads. He'll maintain for a while both ways and then something changes. I do have an excellent farrier (he's a Gene Ovnicek disciple) but he and the
vet who deals with my lameness issues never see eye to eye so I end up being the one to make the call.
Thanks.
Valeree
SoCal
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Hi Valeree,
For good or for bad, as his owner, the final decision is always yours. Yes, it's possible to correct ground parallel coffin bones and to have a sound, barefoot horse.. Some will be easier than others to correct and most you'll need to remain vigilant so that the situation doesn't recur. One caveat is if the ringbone has progressed to the point where the joint has fused in a broken-back alignment as that will limit what can be accomplished. If you want to study an extreme example, just take a look at Lynn and Relevante's story on the main ECIR group. In his case, his CBs had progressed to negative plane yet were corrected in a few months: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/photo/36909/3040984?p=pcreated%2C%2C%2C50%2C2%2C350%2C0 In most cases, the toes are out too far ahead of where they need to be and the heels are underrun. Trims need to back the toes up at ground level so that the breakover aligns with where the bony column dictates it should be. Most times, this means backing thru what appears to be the "white line" at ground level. The hardest part is to get the heels to stand up straighter, so they move back under the horse, without losing critical vertical height. Pete Ramey discusses how to do this here: https://www.hoofrehab.com/HeelHeight.html See esp. figures 2 and 3 -- Lavinia Jan 2005, RI Moderator/ECIR Support |
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Valeree Smith
Hi Lavinia,
Thank you for the links and info. I will read them.
I had pulled his shoes in July of last year as we had a similar problem started and I decided to just let his feet be where they wanted to be. Because I do not have good footing at my barn.....and because I was trying to give this horse some exercise, I put
shoes and pads on in December 2020.
I would dearly love to maintain him barefoot.
He came from Europe and xrays taken over there could have shown a little negative plane. However, the more I looked at those and subsequent ones, the more I could only see ground parallel.
Thanks again.
Valeree
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Jessica Brown <j_k_brown@...>
i was interested in reading the Pete Ramey article above, but the link doesn't appear to be connected properly. Are you able to resend the Pete Ramey link, if it is still available?
Thanks. -- Jessica B GA, 2021 Gypsee's Case History: CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io | Files Gypsee's Photo Album: CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io | Album |
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
Sorry about that, Jessica. For some reason, the link was a repeat of the one to Relevante's photo album rather than to Pete's article. I've fixed that link but here it is again:
https://www.hoofrehab.com/HeelHeight.html -- Lavinia Jan 2005, RI Moderator/ECIR Support |
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