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Hoof quality - not the same since the founder
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Stacy
My horse is progressing very well since his slight founder incident in
November. X-rays show that the rotation is gone, there is still slight sinking in the right front - but not much. We have his diet & trim under control. Dandy was diagnosed with IR in early January, and a couple weeks ago confirmed Cushings. He is on Pergolide now. So...my question... the new hoof wall that is growing down is smooth, not wavy at all, I guess which confirms we have the laminitis/founder at bay. However, it looks different than the prefounder hoof. It is dryer, and doesn't look as smooth/finished as it did prior to the founder. The founder line is about 3/4 of the way down his hoof - and what is above the line (newer growth) just doesn't look as good as the hoof he used to grow. It seems like it should be the other way around since we have his diet optimally balanced. Did the founder cause long term damage to however the hoof grows out? The sole is starting to exfoliate too ;-) I am hoping to see concavity again soon... Thanks - Stacy
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Suzanne Harford
--- In ECHoof@..., "Stacy" <saberger@...> wrote:
However, it looks different than the prefounder hoof. It is I was actually just coming over to this list to ask the same question. My 7 year old Morgan, Cassie, is having the same issue. She had no rotation (well, close to 1 degree if we get really picky with her x-rays), has regained concavitiy and her feet are structurally better now than they were before the laminitis. Her diet is super tight and she seems to finally be making improvements with her IR. BUT, the surfaces of all four hoof walls are rough. The only idea her farrier has is "it seems like excess periople." He and I are both very curious about this. Suzanne H. and Cassie NY
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Jackie <stc4qh@...>
This is interesting, Gacy's hoof walls are rough but I attribute this
to the coronet band damage from abscessing when she foundered. She came close to sloughing both hoof walls. I've accepted the fact she will not have "pretty" feet. Jackie and Gacy --- In ECHoof@..., "Suzanne" <smharford@...> wrote: question. My 7 year old Morgan, Cassie, is having the same issue. She had nobetter now than they were before the laminitis. Her diet is super tightand she seems to finally be making improvements with her IR. BUT, thefarrier has is "it seems like excess periople." He and I are both very
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Claire Vale
Hi,
If you’ve tightened the diet since the founder episodes, then I’d wonder if the new diet might be a bit low in methionine / biotin, at least for these horses? For some reason, some horses seem to have a higher need for those components, so if you aren’t using a hoof supp high in those ingredients, it might be worth a try to see what happens. Remember that you’ll have to give it for a few months to really see the changes (if there are any) to the new hoof wall…
Claire Vale New Zealand
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"Stacy" wrote:
> However, it looks different than the prefounder hoof. It is > dryer, and doesn't look as smooth/finished as it did prior to the > founder. > > Thanks - Stacy > I was actually just coming over to this list to ask the same question. My 7 year old Morgan, Cassie, is having the same issue. She had no rotation (well, close to 1 degree if we get really picky with her x-rays), has regained concavitiy and her feet are structurally better now than they were before the laminitis. Her diet is super tight and she seems to finally be making improvements with her IR. BUT, the surfaces of all four hoof walls are rough. The only idea her farrier has is "it seems like excess periople." He and I are both very curious about this. Suzanne H. and Cassie NY
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Julia Bonar <keystone@...>
<<<<<<<she seems to finally be making improvements with her IR. BUT,
the
surfaces of all four hoof walls are rough. The only idea her farrier has is "it seems like excess periople." He and I are both very curious about this.>>>>>>> Funny this should come up! My trimmer was concerned last
time she trimmed my boy Beck (about 5 weeks ago) because the surface of all
four hooves was so rough almost to the bottom of the hoof. She wasn't sure
if it was the periople or not, looked weird to her, she said she had
never seen a hoof like it before. However the hoof
otherwise seemed totally fine and he was sound as could be.
Last week, when she trimmed again all but about the 3/4
" below the coronet band was clear but now there was a definate hard slightly
bulged area. It looked almost like a founder line but was not indented
simply thicker for 3/4" then dropped off to smooth hoof.
We had a good look I went back in my mind for an
incident that could indicate he'd had a set back but other than an hour's escape
in the the wide grren reaches of the pasture muzzless I couldn't come up with
anything. So we decided on a wait and see.
I took the boys, one for a massage, one for a
riding lesson two days later. The masseusse happens to be a traditional
farrier and she was oooing and arrring over how good their feet looked, so I
asked her about the ledge on Beck's feet, she had a good look and said she it
was a new look to her but didn't think it was a founder line more likely
periople.
Well to cut this ramble short, yesterday the whole
thing softened up and peeled back a little, it's the periople and
looks totally normmal now. The hoof is smooth as a baby's whatsit.
Curious to see if you end up with the same
thing.
Julia
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Jackie <stc4qh@...>
Claire, here is a link to a photo taken of Gacy's fronts. I would
like your opinion, or others too, if a supplement would help the appearance of her hooves. She is on an IR diet and is healthy. Also, she has been on a regular 3wk trim schedule on her fronts and will be trimmed on May 2nd. More background is she foundered in May 06 with severe coronet abscessing. Thanks. http://pets.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ECHoof/photos/view/2979?b=3 Jackie and Gacy --- In ECHoof@..., "Claire Vale" <claire@...> wrote: wonder if the new diet might be a bit low in methionine / biotin, at leastfor these horses? For some reason, some horses seem to have a higher needfor those components, so if you aren't using a hoof supp high in thoseingredients, it might be worth a try to see what happens. Remember that you'llhave to give it for a few months to really see the changes (if there are any) tothe new hoof wall.Behalf Of Suzanne40yahoogroups.com> , "Stacy" <saberger@> wrote:question.However, it looks different than the prefounder hoof. It isI was actually just coming over to this list to ask the same My 7 year old Morgan, Cassie, is having the same issue. She had nobetter now than they were before the laminitis. Her diet is super tight and
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Stacy
Wow - my horses feet look rough, like the top of Gacy's feet, but not
nearly so bad. My farrier agrees that what I am seeing is likely excess peripole. I will be doing another blood panel on Dandy next month and it will be interesting what my vet thinks. My hrose is getting biotin, and has everything else in his diet right where it should be. I just was concerned that his feet look different now than they did prefounder, even though the x-rays indicate everything is ok. It is at least a little reassuring that others see this with their horses too - and maybe this is normal and part of the long term healing process. Stacy
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