Re: Paddy's blood results & vet's opinion...
Hi Robyn
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I presume you had Paddy's blood tested at Cambridge - The Hormone Lab? I have queried their ACTH normal range before. According to their website they use RIA (radioimmunoassay), as do most labs testing equine ACTH. I don't remember seeing any/many (?) labs with a normal range in excess of 47 pg/ml - Liphook's range for Aug-Oct. And nearly all the labs I've seen used for ACTH testing have a normal range of around <35 pg/mg - other than those that now adjust for the seasonal rise. See p27-28 of their lab manual for ACTH & insulin testing: http://thehormonelab.com/core/..uploads/csls/Lab-Service-Information-Manual-March-2011.pdf "However very high levels (>300pg/mL) are still highly suggestive of ECS and a normal level in the autumn (<100 pg/mL) is more likely to be truly negative." Is it possible for normal ranges to differ this much?? If not, then yes without a doubt Paddy's ACTH is far too high, and I would increase his pergolide - you don't even know how high his ACTH actually is, it could be far higher than 600 pg/ml. Andy Durham said in his Aug Prascend webinar that horses need different doses of pergolide and he has horses on anything from 1-2 mg/day to 8 mg/day. The correct dose is the dose that controls the clinical symptoms and the ACTH. For this reason I always recommend that people in the UK ask to have their blood tested at Liphook - not only are Liphook doing a lot of research into endocrine testing, but their results are in line with most of the other good labs recommended by this group. I would also say that his insulin is above normal - I believe it has been mentioned on here that some labs in the USA have results approx. 2 x higher than Cornell, so perhaps this is similar with Cambridge. But nonetheless you are looking for an insulin result <20 uIU/ml according to most vets, and ideally <10 uIU/ml. And his glucose is right at the top of the normal range given, and over 100 mg/dl. Cortisol isn't considered diagnostic of PPID by most vets. I'd be grateful if someone with more knowledge than me could comment on the ACTH normal range mentioned above - I'm currently researching this but it's taking a while. If no one has an answer, I'll contact the lab next week and see what I can find out. Andrea UK/France Jan 2010 www.thelaminitissite.org
ACTH *>600 pg/mL (no actual figure as above lab's range - lab's normal range is <100, and >300 considered very high)
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