Nora & Gary <NRGDB@...>
I just started my horse on permax and am wondering typically how longand Lou and Jack wrote:
I confirmed the diagnosis and prescription through out local vet--------
Hi Linda and Lou and Jack,
We had Jazz on Permax for several months and didn't see a whole lot of
improvement in attitude(depressed).He also wasn't completely shedding out
his winter coat - had patches of long hair - Our Vet didn't believe in
Thyroid meds for Cushings horses (his thyroid level was "low normal")-
suggested we might have to increase the permax (he was on 1 mg/day), but
after reading several things on the net , I insisted we do bloodwork with
BET labs (he wasn't sure about their methods),and when they came back low on
T4 , we started him on thyro-l.(the cortisol variance was normal , and they
said he did NOT need more Permax)
The improvement was DRAMATIC ! Within just a few days he was much less
depressed and withdrawn , appetite improved , more interested in his
surroundings. - he finally began to shed out and get a sleek summer coat.
He had lost allot of weight and muscle tone with the Cushings and Founder
(no...he was never overweight , never cresty ! -this is another fallacy that
all hypothyroid horses look like this). He has actually GAINED weight back
and gained muscle tone .I don't know why this is ...it just is.
I also have had him on the ABC brand supplements/free choice minerals since
March and just recently have also been put on their "Cushings Supplement" by
their "Cushings support tech" Alice. I think he's even better since on that
also. Actually he looks better now than he has in a long time.
The free choice mineral thing (he has 8 to choose from) was new to me...hard
idea to get used to but it seems to work. He consumed allot of the
"R.C.mineral mix" for about a month , then seemed to finally be
"replenished" and now consumes much less.
I think there's a whole lot more to "Cushings" than the Veterinary community
knows - Allot of it is getting "put together" because of exchange of
experiences on the internet.
I also put him on a "low soluble carbohydrate" diet , which I think also
helps (one cup corn oil on his hay , Purina Strategy (low carb/hi
protein)-1quart/day with his meds/supplements -free choice grass hay -
*small* amount of alfalfa to round out some minerals.
We also pulled his "backward shoes"(weren't working) in March and began
frequent "barefoot founder trims", which helped tremendously.
Well , this is probably more than you wanted to know -
But if she doesn't improve with Permax alone -check levels with BET labs -
and try the Thyroid. (and look into nutraceuticals - they help - several
manufacturers - I think they all get at the problem in a similar fashion ).