Re: Fizzie Iris - Bad bad xray results - need urgent advice as to what can be done

Mandy Charmam

Hello all

I've now added Xrays. You can see the bone loss and rotation in the left fore. 

I will increase prascend as advised and then retest in 3 weeks. 

Dentist says he is losing weight due to compromised old man teeth. (He is now extremely under-weight)  Denstist advises no hay as he can't chew it sufficiently to ensure he gets the nutrition and also it has become a choke/colic hazard. he advises adding in old man mix such as soaked 'Gumnuts' or 'Old timer'. I've checked gumnuts and they don't have sugar so I'm voting for that. I also have put him on Fibre essentials as a hay replacer - soaks up briliantly into a mush. Still getting the speedibeet and Vit and Min supplement. I have also changed whole linseeds to linseed oil.  Am feeding 4-5 small feeds a day which he is thoroughly enjoying. Is this OK? 

I am tryign to get copies of the photos of Fizzies latest trim. He was unable to weight bear on the left so my wonderful trimmer dug away the dirt from around his right foot so she could trim - he was standing on a mini pedastal. Not ideal but better than nothing. 

IS there anything we can do to support circulation or address bone loss. Someone i have been talking to has mentioned both Boron and chromium as potentially helpful. she has provided this information which I thought was super interesting.

Boron Soil analysis has confirmed the low levels of this nutrient. The role of boron in humans and animals has long been known to be diverse. An animal’s inability to access boron from their diet will:
1. Reduce the horse’s ability to reduce inflammation – horses with laminitis will be especially prone to an inability to reduce inflammation.
2. Swollen joints will subside very slowly. This is associated with the animal’s inability to synthesise lipoxygenase – an enzyme that helps control inflammation.
3. General movement will be restricted due to the collective effect of the inflammation.
4. Old and young animals will display an inability to maintain bone density and be slow to recover from injury.
5. Sensitive feet, or poor hoof health, is often a problem associated with a lack of boron. This will obviously be exacerbated if the horse is suffering from laminitis.
6. Boron and magnesium are both required to enable a horse to metabolise calcium. Without adequate access to both elements bone loss will steadily accelerate, which often stimulates the development of osteoporosis.
7. If your horse is lacking ‘mental alertness’ and underperforming, then a lack of boron can often be the problem.

Boron often combines with the hydroxyl groups and form corticosteroids, which are known to alleviate symptoms associated with rheumatoid arthritis and joint inflammation. Boron is rapidly absorbed and then excreted in the urine, so its potential for toxicity is minimal. Feeding a proprietary supplement rarely causes a problem, but if your horse has a known kidney problem, then boron intake should be carefully monitored as impaired kidney function could reduce excretion resulting in boron accumulation.

BORON DOSAGES FOR HORSES How much do horses need? Veterinarian Dr J Mullholland recommends feeding about 4g to 5g of borax once per week for each horse as part of an anti-laminitis strategy . Borax contains 11.3% boron, therefore 4g borax provides 452mg boron. I would be inclined to reduce this amount if feeding over a longer period of time especially for long term use.

I discovered this information in relation to seekign answers for my other horse, Harry, who I suspect has Mg deficeincy with recurring muscle spasms, twitching, ongoing soreness, poor movement, uncofrtable backing, and recently found out from dentist very soft teeth. I have had him all his life (from 3 months old) and he has always been NQR. Vet suspects kissing spine (never really been under saddle so not from poor riding posture) but of course doesn't really know why. I am starting to think PSSM - and am trying to work out how to get a test for this. My vet has had no expereince with this. Interstingly, Harry is from a stallion who has had persistent similar symptoms as have his siblings. The breeder has pursued the barteneoulos diagnosis and has put it down to this. 

anyway - lots of information - any help much much appreciated. I am just not ready to give up on Fizzie yet and thank god for this group as I have someone else to ask. 

Bless you (I'm not religious but it seems appropriate for people that are actually saving lives. )


Mandy C, Macedon Australia, 2022

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