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Re: Trimming sole [was ugh! I am always a " day late " in proper protocal...]

PapBallou@...
 

OK -  maybe talking two things here.  In one of Julie's posts, she mentioned something about a concern of a hoof sloughing off.  When you asked the question about the hoof that needed to be removed, I read that as a reference to a sloughing hoof.  Perhaps you meant the 'stuff' that would be trimmed off?

Either way, I hope I answered your question.

Linda
EC Primary Response
West Coast
May 2004


Re: Trimming sole [was ugh! I am always a " day late " in proper protocal...]

PapBallou@...
 

CeAnn -

First, no hoof needs to be removed! 

Often an overgrown foot, such as Pony's, will have a lot of unexfoliated dead sole that may need some help in being removed.  Pony's foot has what appears to be a lot of concavity, but in fact, that concavity is simply because the walls, especially in the heel area, are so long as to make the cup of the foot almost appear to be cavernous.

Different people have different individual approaches as to how they manage the remaining sole after removing the excess.  If possible, it is probably best to be able to smooth the sole, with knife, grinder, dremel, or small curved wood finishing rasps.  
In my area, if I pop out dead sole, the horse will do the smoothing in a few strides across the DG, a common natural footing.  

A horse on very firm ground will usually develop what appears to be a somewhat flat sole.  It's just a more full cup of the foot, since the foot always 'wants' to be in contact with the ground.  Since the ground doesn't conform to the foot because the ground is so hard, the foot develops a sole that will contact the unforgiving ground.

OK - much more of an answer than probably the intent of the question!

Linda
EC Primary Response
West Coast
May 2004


Re: Farewell to my friend

Emily Phillips
 

Oh Lisanne. You made me cry and smile all at the same time. To have a relationship like you had with Lacey is very special. She will stay with you in your heart and memories forever. Big hugs from across the pond.. Emily, Cheyenne and Saxon Springmount, Victoria, Australia Jan 2014


Re: Farewell to my friend

janieclougher@...
 

Ah, Lisanne - what a beautiful tribute to your dear Lacey.  Fly free, Lacey - and hugs to you, Lisanne.


Jaini (BVSc),Merlin,Maggie,Gypsy
BC09
ECIR  mod/support

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ECHistory/files/Jaini%20Clougher%2C%20Smithers%20BC/





---In EquineCushings@..., <lisanne@...> wrote :

Farewell my dear friend, beautiful soul. My life was forever changed by you and will be forever changed with your passing. May you run free now, without pain, through green pastures. You deserve that and so much more.

Melody's Merry Lace aka "Lacey"
05.08.1990-02.25.2014


 

Lisanne in Oregon

09/2010


Re: Pics of Ponys feets.

dnlf@...
 

Hi Julie,

Ummmm - I would say that the farrier won't know or he would have done it already. It is likely he was telling you that you should not lower the heels as that will put more pressure on the DDFT (deep digital flexor tendon) and cause more rotation; that you must raise the heels to relieve this tension. This is an unfortunately common (and outdated) misconception.

I put some mark-ups in your folder to give you an idea of what you're looking to accomplish.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/photos/albums/1006585884

 Need to be careful to only drop height in the heels as there appears to be sinking so the total amount of hoof capsule that pony has, which looks excessive, is needed as the bony column is sitting lower inside than it should be. DO NOT lower the wall height in the front part of the foot, esp in the area of the pillars. This is what is protecting the leading edge of the coffin bone. Will also need to back the toes to relieve the lever forces that are tearing the laminar connections with each step.

Need some pics of the sides of the hooves, with the camera at ground level, to be able to show you what these changes would look like from the outside.

Use boots/pads as needed to keep her comfortable. If she walks OK without them then great. The smaller guys generally bounce back much more quickly than the bigger ones.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team


Re: Farewell to my friend

Lisa M. Koch
 


Re: Farewell to my friend

Shari Starr
 

Lisanne, I send you comfort & hugs with your special friend Lacey passing to spirit. I still view this site because I'm sponsoring a draft carriage horse with PPID. I lost my Snickers to a non-cushings related cause last June 25th. Please come visit the hoofbeats in heaven site if you need support from a great group of others that understand as few do about our special relationship that we have with our equines & how deep a grief that we go through. Or, if you would like you can e-mail privately if you like & I'd be glad to e-walk beside for support if you want. Shari, Fly free, Snickers mom. My e-mail address is: lifesongfarm @ yahoo.com (l put in spaces so that yahoo wouldn't edit it)


Re: Alcar and thyroid

reypunky
 

Thank you!  Always appreciate the clarification/correction!
Vicki


Re: Testing -

skylane@...
 

Yay!!!


Re: Thanks for the Database!!!

bizzibizzigirl
 

My bad.  Please ignore my missing info bit  :)


Lisa & Miami (Arab x RP)

Plus Condor & Woody (unchallenged)

Victoria, Australia – 2010

 

CH:   https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Miami%20and%20Lisa/

 

PICS:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/photos/albums/846035640

 



Dosage database addition

bizzibizzigirl
 

Hi LeeAnne
I think I must've missed the step of sending you the info that I'd entered ! Would you please add our info in when you have an opportunity?
Thank you
Lisa & Miami
Victoria, Australia
2010


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From: ThePitchforkPrincess@...
To: EquineCushings@...;
Subject: [EquineCushings] **ANNOUNCING THE NEW PERGOLIDE DOSAGE DATABASE**
THE NEW PERGOLIDE DOSAGE DATABASE:
http://tinyurl.com/m6syzt4 http://tinyurl.com/m6syzt4
Thanks to Neo Yahoo, members could not properly use the Database section. Well the database is back! It has been moved to a Dropbox location and is better than before with Dosage and Breed Statsas well as new columns that will lead to more usefulness to all members.
To view the database: http://tinyurl.com/m6syzt4 http://tinyurl.com/m6syzt4
To enter or edit your horse?s information:
Email LeeAnne: ThePitchforkPrincess at gmail dot com
Pleaseif you have not updated or entered your equine?s information, send LeeAnne an email. It won?t take long, and especially with the new columns, there will be big benefits to all horses with PPID and their owners down the road.
"The only "correct" dose of pergolide is the one that controls his ACTH."
- Dr. Kellon, ECIR Message #132610, Sep 2, 2009.
Thank you for your cooperation and taking the time to ?give back?.
Owners, Moderators & Primary Response Team of the Equine Cushings List


Re: Thanks for the Database!!!

bizzibizzigirl
 

I'll 3rd it!!  THANK YOU!  What a great source of info, especially the breeds.

I've one little problem though..  I can't find Miami and I on it now.  We're not in the 'oops' section either.  I'm sure my entry worked when I did but I'll have another good look through before I add us in again.  That'll make 54 Arabs.......

Lisa & Miami (Arab x RP)

Plus Condor & Woody (unchallenged)

Victoria, Australia – 2010

 

CH:   https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Miami%20and%20Lisa/

 

PICS:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/photos/albums/846035640

 


Re: Farewell to my friend

bizzibizzigirl
 

I'm very sorry Lisanne.  Always hard to say goodbye to them.  I hope your sadness is eased soon :)



Lisa & Miami (Arab x RP)

Plus Condor & Woody (unchallenged)

Victoria, Australia – 2010

 

CH:   https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Miami%20and%20Lisa/

 

PICS:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/photos/albums/846035640

 



Re: Bicarb and fructans

bizzibizzigirl
 

I can save money by not buying EquiShire anymore then Dr Kellon?

That'd be a nice bonus....

:)

Lisa & Miami (Arab x RP)

Plus Condor & Woody (unchallenged)

Victoria, Australia – 2010

 

CH:   https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Miami%20and%20Lisa/

 

PICS:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/photos/albums/846035640

 


Re: Farewell to my friend

Nancy C
 

I'm so sorry Lisanne.  May you remember all the good times.

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
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Re: Testing -

bigwhitevan2002
 

Welcome Back to the land of the living... :)


Re: Farewell to my friend

dnlf@...
 

Lisanne,

I'm so sorry for your loss of Lacey. Know you did all that you could and that sometimes the kindest gift we can give our beloved horses is to help them over the Bridge. May your happier memories help fill the gaping hole in your heart.

Hugs,
Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Nappi and George Over the Bridge
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team


Re: Thanks for the Database!!!

takarri@...
 

---In EquineCushings@..., <janieclougher@...> wrote :

I just want to send a big shout out to LeeAnne for her sterling work on that data base.  

I'll second that Jaini. . LeeAnne- what an awesome effort!. Thank you for taking what would have been an enormous amount of spare time to keep us on track. Neo will not defeat us (well.. maybe..sometimes ) 

Pauline

Jack & Spur

Sth West Vic

Australia Aug 07

http://tinyurl.com/7qbdyas

'Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible.' ~ St. Francis of Assisi


Re: Farewell to my friend

takarri@...
 


Deepest sympathy Lisanne,

Always a hard decision to make, but also the right one. She is at peace now & I'm glad you found comfort in that.

Pauline
Jack/Spur/ Angel Harry
Aust Aug 07 



Re: Testing -

PapBallou@...
 

It's true!  It's really true!

Linda

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