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Re: ECHistory8

janieclougher@...
 

Done!

Jaini and crew
BC09
ECIR mod/support


Re: Stormy

Donna Coughlin
 

Teri, 

I've read your posts for years and so admired the care and love you gave Stormy. What a lucky girl she was to spend her entire life with you, and you were so blessed to have her--and to have her let you know when she had to go. I cried when I read your post (just after I read about Jasper and Chardonnay), thinking about my most ancient mini Duke, who probably would have loved Stormy!

Donna Coughlin, Duke, Obi and Robin
CT 2009



Re: Now: colick Trouble Jasper's Journal of Pulse & lameness last 10 days.

Donna Coughlin
 

Corinne,

I just wanted to add my heartfelt sympathy for all that you are going through. I'm so very sorry about Chardonnay. So many of us have lost our "heart horses," and on top of Jasper's hard times, it's so much for you to bear. Just know that after 26 1/2 years, you obviously gave her a very wonderful, long life and she was so very lucky to have you. It will take time for the hole in your heart to heal, but it will be filled with wonderful and happy memories, and she will be with you forever.

I lost my horse after 23 years, and Obi called out for a few days and then accepted the loss. Dr. Kellon gave you great advice, and I am sure Jasper will adjust. With this group's help, he will recover.

Thinking of you,

Donna Coughlin, Duke, Obi and Robin
CT 2009



Re: Now: colick Trouble Jasper's Journal of Pulse & lameness last 10 days.

ThePitchforkPrincess@...
 


Corinne,
Hang in there.  If I could come and help you care for Jasper I'd be there in a heart beat.  All I can do is be here if you want to email.  Having recently gone through the loss of my heart-horse, I know too well what you are going through losing Chardonnay so suddenly but to have to go through that while Jasper is in such need is just beyond awful. 
If you need anything from the files, just ask in email as the daily digests are slow.  I can at least make that a little easier on you.  
-LeeAnne
Newmarket, Ontario
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Re: poor fat digestion and shiny manure

kansteen5545@...
 

Hi Lorna -
I found it - the web site is: www.thehorse.com/articles/31417/what-does-your-horse-stool-say
It says: "High beet pulp can lead to reddish-brown fecal balls and a sticky, clear film around the balls".
Since my horse is on the Balance Cubes, I saw this as an explanation to what I was seeing, since my horse is in otherwise good health with current worming and negative sand in colon. I should not have said, perhaps, that the TBC were implicated - but only beet pulp in general.
Karen
ME/2014




---- "windybriars@... [EquineCushings]" <EquineCushings@...> wrote:


I have read that this is not uncommon for horses that are on the Timothy Balance Cubes - mine is, and I have noticed that her manure has that same look to it that you are describing.

I'd be interested in where you have read this,Karen.


I have fed ODTBC to 5 of my horses,over many years, and have never seen manure like Beverly and you describe.


Thanks.


Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002

*See What Works in Equine Nutrition*
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Re: Clippers for Cushings Coat

Mark & Judy Meadows <marktime@...>
 

Thanks, Kerry.  No, my horse is an outdoor pasture horse.  What you are telling me suggests that the Andis won't do.  I don't need fancy, but I need sturdy and workable.  I should have mentioned that I only have a left hand--my other arm is cut off above the elbow.  That makes some difference too.  I intend to clip only twice a year,  if that is enough.  I know that I should bathe him first.

Judy in SWMO
4/2014
--
Mark & Judy Meadows
~in the Missouri Ozarks


Re: Clippers for Cushings Coat

barbara steadman
 

Hi Judy - agree completely with Kerry's thoughts....

The only A5 type clipper that might be worth considering is the Andis 5 speed but even then you would most likely have to clip in stages.  I know the mini people use this clipper on those little woolly mammmoth minis but some say it doesn't quite work on the first clip of the Spring and others say no problem so not sure how it would be in your case.  I would try to borrow one before purchasing to see how it does in your case

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=f3943af0-5d01-4db4-95c1-609fa9a6bf58&ccd=IGO047&gclid=CNGdjr6LiMYCFQcRHwod3xAAZg

The Star Lister is a nice powerful lightweight clipper and a very good choice

The Oster Clipmasters are also powerful but a bit heavier than the Listers

Barbara
CT
2009
Berry over the Bridge Cushings
Mandy, mini donkey IR

The Clipper Barn of CT


Re: poor fat digestion and shiny manure

kansteen5545@...
 

Hi Lorna -
It was in an article I read on line when looking up info re - horses manure - normal/abnormal - it said that if a horse is fed beet pulp it's manure can take on a slightly shiny look. I figured that what I was dealing with. You can look for the same info - and I will see if I can find that info again so I can let you know exactly what it said.
Karen
Me/2014

---- "windybriars@... [EquineCushings]" <EquineCushings@...> wrote:


I have read that this is not uncommon for horses that are on the Timothy Balance Cubes - mine is, and I have noticed that her manure has that same look to it that you are describing.

I'd be interested in where you have read this,Karen.


I have fed ODTBC to 5 of my horses,over many years, and have never seen manure like Beverly and you describe.


Thanks.


Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002

*See What Works in Equine Nutrition*
http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf


https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup








Re: Clippers for Cushings Coat

Sherry Morse
 

If you don't want to invest in a pair of big clippers like the Clipmasters (610 Clipmaster Variable Speed Clipper Oster ( - Grooming - Clippers - Large Hair Head)
 
I would recommend seeing if you can find a professional clipper in the area and pay them to do the clipping for you.  I clipped my mare 3x last year and she's been clipped once this year already and I'll probably do her again within a month depending on how hot it gets and how hairy she gets.

The little clippers take - on average 2-3 times longer than the big clippers, they overheat more easily and ultimately they're just not the right tool for the job.

Thanks,
Sherry and Scarlet
PA 2014


From: "marktime@... [EquineCushings]" To: EquineCushings@...
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:51 AM
Subject: [EquineCushings] Clippers for Cushings Coat

 
My horse Rudy has a one inch-summer coat and a five-inch winter one.  He is responding to Pergolide and diet changes but the coat stays.  It is starting to get hot in Missouri and I would like to get a clipper and shorten his summer coat now, and his winter coat (not AS short) next spring.  I did some research and came up with this set of clippers.  Will this do for trimming twice a year?  If not, what should I look for that will not break the bank?


Thank you,

Judy in SW Missouri
4/2014



sue & princess/ phyto-quench/ question..

sue wolf <wolffarm4@...>
 

hello everyone,
We'll yes I have more questions about PQ.. I now have princess up to 2 doses a day its split up in to 4 feedings I mix it into soaked timothy cubes.. . and I have the bute down to 1/2 tab 2 times a day am and half pm. shes seems really sore. shes not as good as if I was giving her 1 tablet a bute. shes not moving  much in her stall. I don't feel that we backed step... my question is should I up the dose of PQ to 3 does a day? shes only been on the double dose for 2 days this would be her second day..
her abscesses are getting a little bigger at the cornet band but are draining. this is her, I would call it her bad hoof..
can I give her the j-herb to help get the abscesses  out and gone sooner? .. I'm going to order the PQ and give that more time to help her before I call it quits on that and go back to bute.. or could I give her that no bute or devils claw with the PQ and it would help her more.. I know I don't want running around but would like to see her moving, going to her feed tub and water like it not so painful  and be more plain free in her stall..
Anyone have some Ideas on anything that I could or would help her a little more.. she is in soft rides, vet wrap because of the abscesses  in her and the open toes/ no hoof wall there to protect her.. have to keep it clean.
the vet said he would like me to go to a different pain killer, batamine (I know I spelled it wrong) sorry..
because shes been on the bute for some time.
thanks
Sue & princess
6/11 oh


Re: Clippers for Cushings Coat

Kerry Isherwood
 

Those Andis are OK & work on show coats that are blanketed & bathed before clipping but if you are doing a full body clip on a true Cushing's coat you may want a stronger motor. Ive dealt with many brands over the years for show grooming & in veterinary medicine (you'd be surprised what kind of crazy hair in crazy places you have to clip in an emergency!) and the ones I really like the most are the Lister Star clippers for full body on horses, esp thick coats that are unbathed. If you take care of the blades (stop, clean and oil with every ten mins of use, religiously) ive gotten prob an average of ten full body clips out of a single set of blades. And thats on two horses that live outside 24/7 year-round, one being PPID and having ridiculously lavish leg feathers.

Only caveat with this clipper & blade is to make sure you buy the medium cut blades, NOT the fine that come w machine. The fine is almost a surgical cut. Medium are perfect for show ring needs and leave enough hair even for horses living outside w daily fly spraying. Ive been very impressed with these Lister clippers

However, if your horse is stalled, blanketed, vacuumed, bathed frequently, etc (not living the rugged life) you are prob fine with the Andis.

Kerry in NY
Sept 2014


Clippers for Cushings Coat

marktime@...
 

My horse Rudy has a one inch-summer coat and a five-inch winter one.  He is responding to Pergolide and diet changes but the coat stays.  It is starting to get hot in Missouri and I would like to get a clipper and shorten his summer coat now, and his winter coat (not AS short) next spring.  I did some research and came up with this set of clippers.  Will this do for trimming twice a year?  If not, what should I look for that will not break the bank?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018KVI3Y/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Thank you,


Judy in SW Missouri

4/2014


Re: Now: colick Trouble Jasper's Journal of Pulse & lameness last 10 days.

cynthia kontz
 

Oh Corrine,

I am so very sorry to hear about your dear girl Chardonnay. Please try to find comfort in knowing that you and Jasper are in our thoughts and prayers.

Hugs to you both!
Cindy & Raven
WV - 2012(?)



On Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:55 AM, "'Cindy L. McGinley' cmcginl1@... [EquineCushings]" wrote:


 
So very sorry for your loss. Blessings and peace to you and Jasper.
 
 
- Cindy (with Alf's Entourage) in Central NY
ECIR Support
May 2006
www.blackhorseconsulting.com
 



Re: Newly diagnosed pony, feeling overwhelmed....

Chanda
 

You know your mare best, but yes, she should feel better once she is on the right dose of meds for her.   Correct diet helps too.    I'm still learning my guy's rhythms since I didn't have him that long before he was diagnosed, but I do notice subtle changes in him when his meds aren't right.   Like, when he's feeling good and "normal", he'll greet me as soon as he sees me (or hears me) with a big whinny; when he's feeling punky he doesn't make a sound.  

Chanda

MT 9/04


low insulin test

tootsie2toes2
 

My small horse (approx. 800 lbs) was originally tested for insulin at 140 (range 10-30).  She's on 100 mg capsule once a day of cyproheptadine.  The most recent test came in as 6 (again range 10-30).  I'm wondering if I could reduce dosage of cypro to every other day or every day and a half.  She has no symptoms at this time of cushings.  She had a slight case of laminitis in one hoof in Feb. 2014.  However, I do not let her on grass.  She's old and has bad teeth.  I give her approx. 7 lbs. senior a day (divided into 4 feedings) but she is also able to eat some hay.

Thanks,
Judy Beumer
Oswego


ECHistory8

Natalie Washburn
 

Could I be sent an invitation to join ECHistory 8?  Sorry if this is the wrong venue...

Natalie in TX
Nov. 2002



Re: Now: colick Trouble Jasper's Journal of Pulse & lameness last 10 days.

Cindy McGinley
 

So very sorry for your loss. Blessings and peace to you and Jasper.
 
 
- Cindy (with Alf's Entourage) in Central NY
ECIR Support
May 2006
www.blackhorseconsulting.com
 


Re: Stormy

Cindy McGinley
 

     I’m so very sorry to hear about Stormy. Rest in peace, little one. Enjoy the Summerland!
 
 
- Cindy (with Alf's Entourage) in Central NY
ECIR Support
May 2006
www.blackhorseconsulting.com


Vet and Farrier needed in KC

Mary Clements <mary.clements@...>
 

I am in need of a vet knowledgeable about IR and cushings in KC Mo and a farrier.
Thanks in advance.
Mary
Mo 2012

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Re: poor fat digestion and shiny manure

Kerry Isherwood
 

....."It just has a slightly blue tint you can see in the sun. It is otherwise dry and normal looking.".....


>>>>Maybe a misting of fly spray wafted over the pile?  Something from a neighbor's yard on a windy day?  Pollen? 

Not trying to be curt, but IMO you need to look at the big picture:  if your mare is otherwise doing relatively well and "blue poop" is really the most pressing thing you are concerned about at present, then you are darn lucky.  Every single horse on this forum is ill in one stage or another.  Some are downright critical and may not survive until tomorrow.  I'm not at all belittling your mare's manure situation, so do make daily note of the blue poop (hopefully you keep a journal of sorts for observations?) and see if you can find correlations between the poop color and any other change (such as supps, meds, new bag of foodstuffs, dewormings, vaccinations, changes in weather, new hay, etc).  Perhaps you can ask your vet if its worth sending a manure sample for testing, if you are still concerned?  Your local vet may be more helpful deciding what lab would be most useful for your area of the country.

Lastly, and most importantly, please do take the time to hug & appreciate your mare every single day and revel in the time you have left while she's relatively healthy.

Best of luck,
Kerry in NY
Sept 2014

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