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Re: Still confused about deworming

 

I am interested in this topic because I have often wondered how my horses could possibly have worms when we pick up all manure on their dry lot daily. 

Gail Russell July 2008 Forestville CA



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WAS: Is flax and magnesium still needed for my IR horse? NOW: returning to work

Nancy C
 

Hi Deb and Bev

Returning to exercise can vary for individuals, depending on the quality of the trim prior to the incident, the extent of rotation or descent if any, how well the new hoof is growing in.  The trigger for the laminitis event also needs to be addressed as well as possible.

There are some further thoughts on going back to exercise on the ECIR website

https://www.ecirhorse.org/DDT+E-exercise.php

Glad to hear of improvement from both of you.
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Re: FEED FOR MAC

abuchanan58@...
 

Aurelio

Is there a possibility that they are in my area and I just don't what they are packaged under? If not is there a way to get them shipped to me?

Thanks!
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Mandy and Mac
Ridgeville, SC
Nov 2017
 


Re: FEED FOR MAC

abuchanan58@...
 

Thanks Jean!! That's exactly who I was talking about. She is checking with her rep and trying to get this in. Are you using the same or did you find something comparable?

Thanks!
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Mandy and Mac
Ridgeville, SC
Nov 2017
 


Re: Still confused about deworming

Maxine McArthur
 

Cami and Robyn
I'm interested in your manure management strategy, as it seems to me that will influence the amount of worm larvae that a horse has access to ingest. Do you pick up manure or leave it, do you rotate grazing areas, do you have dung beetles? 

Moderators, if this topic is better suited to Horsekeeping I'll move it there. 
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Maxine and Indy

Canberra, Australia 2010

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Re: Triple Crown being bought by Purina

Marsha Cloutier
 

I certainly hope BS does carry it. I get mine at either the Farmyard Store in Derby or Guys Farm and Yard in Morrisville. 
Marsha in NEK if VT


Re: Struggling to get a diagnosis

Jo Ellis
 

Hi Karen. I did do a glucometer reading myself although some time later and it was 5mmol/l far above the test result of 1.1. I will repeat this tomorrow when the vet is here. Thanks
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- Jo - May 2016 Wales, UK
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Re: Struggling to get a diagnosis

Jo Ellis
 

Thanks Dr Clougher. TRH stim test booked for wednesday 15th Nov so just half way! I will take a glucometer reading also at that time as a reference and also photograph the tubes used. I will quiz the vet and make sure the blood is immediately chilled even if I have to provide the ice. Insulin and glucose tests booked also. May have results by Friday.
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- Jo - May 2016 Wales, UK
Devon Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jo%20and%20Devon

 


Re: Still confused about deworming

 

I'm confused about the peak and low seasons.....I'm located in south Florida, which is warm and wet for the majority of the year, so I am not certain if we have a peak and low season? 

We currently have six horses on site, and all have access to shared pastures daily.  We perform FEC every 4 weeks, any horse with FEC over 250 is treated with Ivermectin, and we use Quest Plus in March and November, regardless of FEC.  I also treat any new intakes with unknown deworming history with Ivermectin once every three weeks for two doses, then Quest Plus on week 9.
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Cami Kanner

 

Vero Beach, FL

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Re: Is flax and magnesium still needed for my IR horse?

Bev
 

Hi Deb,
Happy to hear that your horse is improving also. I first started riding my horse lightly with padded boots on about two months ago. He did quite well but I just rode for a few minutes around the yard. Then I rode him out a ways and he did fine. Next I took off the boots and rode him about three weeks ago. He's tolerated that just fine. For the past two weeks I've been ponying him out with one of my other horses for an hour to an hour/half. He's doing just great with being out that long (ponied) without boots. Though I'm taking him on areas that are not real rocky. He's moving right out and enjoying the exercise. 

I guess I would just go slowly and see how your horse tolerates the exercise. My horse is with three others in big dry paddock (about 2 acres) so I can watch him to see if he looks lame. But like others have said, exercise is good for them. So I'm trying to keep him moving as much as he likes.


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- Bev and Majestic
May, 2017
Prescott, Arizona
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Re: Is flax and magnesium still needed for my IR horse?

Bev
 

Hi Eleanor,

My hay test states that my mixed hay has "As Sampled: Magnesium .18% and .82 g/lb" 

I've been googling what I can find about how much a 1,000 horse needs in magnesium per day and cannot come up with an answer that I can understand. Can you please tell me if the magnesium tested in my hay sounds like they are getting enough? Especially for my IR horse?

Thank you!
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- Bev and Majestic
May, 2017
Prescott, Arizona
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Can a 3-4 hour fast cause low values in blood tests?

Karin & Inky <ksherbin@...>
 

The mods had recommended I re-test Inky’s ACTH and glucose/insulin because the latter levels were very low in August (58 Mg/dL for glucose on a scale of 71-113, and 10.75 uIU/mL on a scale of 10-40). Those values raised the question of whether the blood had been handled properly.

 

The veterinarian is coming out Wednesday to draw the blood.

 

My question: Could the low values be because Inky hadn’t eaten anything for a while? He is fed beet pulp in the evening. In the morning he gets about 20 pounds of hay, which does not last him until 1 p.m., when the blood draw is usually done.

 

If the thought is that him in essence fasting for a few hours could result in the lower values, let me know and I’ll take some vacation time to drive out and stuff hay nets to keep him eating longer. Though I should add that this has been the routine for the last year of testing.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Karin & Inky

Forest, VA

IR/Cushing's

July 27, 2015

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Re: Custom Minerals

Alicia Harlov
 

That is what I have always done with my HorseTech supplement.. I didn't think there's a possibility I couldn't do it that way!... so I am definitely interested to hear if this is okay. 
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- Alicia 

September 2017, Ipswich, Massachusetts

Vinnie's Case History
Vinnie's Pictures


Re: Custom Minerals

celestinefarm
 

Jean , no reason not to split the supplement into AM and PM. I would imagine most of us supplement this way, I know I do.

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Dawn Wagstaff and Tipperary   

Saline, MI  2003

Tipperary Case History


Re: New hoof photos

Sue Hansen
 

Thank you for your rant Jane.  I needed that as my farrier is about to drive in.  Wish me luck!

Sue

 

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Sue H.
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Re: Custom Minerals

Lorna Cane
 

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 07:51 am, Cody jones wrote:
Thanks in advance for the info. My boy seems to be coming along ok. He has last few days not been attacking his hay bag as aggressively as in the past.  No signs (to me) of any pain etc for some time now either.  
I can't answer the magnesium question,Matthew.

But just wanted to thank you for the shining update. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been been wondering.
You two are such a great pair. I'm thrilled to hear how well he's doing.

You really know how to get the job done!!
 
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Lorna in Eastern Ontario, Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002
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Re: Custom Minerals

Cody jones
 

My hay analysis shows  magnesium levels of  % .08    g/lb  .37   I am feeding 18 lbs (dry wt) daily do I still need to add any more Mag. to his RSR  B.P.??


Thanks in advance for the info. My boy seems to be coming along ok. He has last few days not been attacking his hay bag as aggressively as in the past.  No signs (to me) of any pain etc for some time now either.  


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Matthew and Charley
St. Augustine, FL
July 2017


Re: Is flax and magnesium still needed for my IR horse?

Deb
 


-- hi Bev
 It sounds like you and your horse are on the same schedule as mine .  My horse came right out of it as soon as the seasonal rise was over but I’m wondering have you decided when you’re going to try to exercise your horse since he’s not lame anymore ?  I’m trying to decide if I can start doing some light lunging on good ground. He had a pretty mild case of laminitis I think I’m not even sure but that’s what it appeared with a high insulin level
Debra
joined Oct 24 2017
camarillo, ca


Re: Struggling to get a diagnosis

k frog
 

It has likely been discussed previously, but is there a reason a stall side glucometer can not be used at the time of blood draw to give an accurate picture of glucose. Are glucometers not accurate? It seems this would eliminate the variable of possible blood mishandling, or time degradation of sample. 
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Karen F

 

October 2013

Molalla, Oregon

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Re: Triple Crown being bought by Purina

Lin Reuther
 

Does anyone here in the NE know if Blue Seal will still be carrying the Ontario Dehy cubes from Triple Crown?

Lin in cold Vermont and Charlie, the old guy Cushings Haflinger

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