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ironic_acres@...
 

Lavinia,
When you get a chance could you look at the photos of Migo's feet (actually foot. His right front). Ran out of phone battery before I got the other foot finished but it looks much the same.

When I started this group in 2013, I was trimming Migo's feet. I did that for about three years and then decided to let the farrier take back over because I was literally losing sleep over if I was doing it right or not. Medial/Lateral balance is my biggest struggle. Anyway, after his heels got WAY out of control this winter with the farrier, I bit the bullet and started trimming again. This is my second trim and have already lowered his heels a bunch (over 1/2 an inch).

I can see the dish in the front wall and know his foot is still too high and too far forward, but I seem paralyzed in taking the next step. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Case History is up to date.
Tracy and Migo
Ohio
Feb 2013
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https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tracy%20and%20Migo
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=31014


Re: Falce low ACTH?

Francis
 

Case History Uploaded, bloodwork not back yet, will add that as soon as I have it. 
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Francis

May 2017, Deventer, Netherlands

Raya Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Francis%20and%20Raya


Re: New case of laminitis posted

LJ Friedman
 

Or do what I do,,,, borrow the grocery scales at the produce section
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014  San Diego, CA

 

 

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=2117 

.https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/LJ%20and%20Jesse


Re: Can't post - groups.io glitch.

ferne fedeli
 

I got an error message from Norton and couldn't get onto the Groups.io website today.  I called the Norton Support Office and they fixed it for me.  Hope everyone else got their probs fixed too.

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 Ferne Fedeli

No. California

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Ferne Fedeli

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Re: The DIY styrofoam boots for fast relief.. a question

 

Thanks Nancy, I now understand what you were saying. When getting a replacement pad, what material do you suggest, EVA Foam Mats and at what thickness.

Thanks again,
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Lynn and Harley

 

Oct. 2010 

New Mexico

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Lynn%20and%20Harley
https://ecir.groups.io/g/casehistory/album?id=16054
https://ecir.groups.io/g/casehistory/album?id=948
 


Re: New case of laminitis posted

 

Marti, not a mod, just a member … one TINY detail that might help in your EXCELLENT Case History, is putting the feed stuff measurements in ‘weights’ instead of ‘cans’, ‘scoops’…

 

If there isn’t a scale available, just figure out how long a bag lasts, and divide the pounds in the bag by the number of days it lasts, to give you pounds per day fed of the different feeds.

 

You’re doing a great job, especially considering it’s ‘long distance’

 

 

 

 


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Ellen
Pal & Savvy
N. Alabama
08/10/13.


Re: Cooper’s blood work

Leslie Upton
 

He was not fasted. I have uploaded his blood work to photos as well. The only thing that happened in December was he had an abscess pop out the coronary band on his left front. He was wormed on the 15th. Those are the only two things that come to mind. His blood work says segmented neutrophils are high, which would indicate an infection, but the abscess was December, he had a shot of antibiotics in late January, and blood work was February 16. He seems to be doing well right now, or at least improving. 


https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/photos?o=160&ord=title&d=asc


Re: New case of laminitis posted

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

There is a potential for gabapentin to interfere with nitric oxide production. If you follow her tongue and gum color you'll be able to tell if the Jiaogulan is able to work.

No Previcox with J.

If there was a problem and you saw a clear benefit, continue. Otherwise try stopping.

Have you considered testing for Lyme?
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Nose It vs. Shires Ball Feeder for ODTB cubes

Maggie
 

Hi Tina,


I've used both the "flat fill" NoseIt's and Shires--both with the ODTB's.  IMO, you are much better off with the flat fill NoseIt's.  The Shires have an opening similar to the "funnell fill" NoseIt's and I found, or rather my boys found, it to be too difficult to get the cubes out of the Shires ones.  The lip on the inside of it blocks the cubes from coming out, and my boys really just gave up on them. I stopped using the Shires altogether and eventually gave them to my horse sitter after they sat around here for a couple of years.  If you don't mind purple, Chewy.com has the 10" flat fill NoseIt's for $28.  Here's the page that shows both the flat fill and funnel fill NoseIt's on Chewy.com:


https://www.chewy.com/s?page=1&rh=brand_facet%3ANose-It%2Cc%3A1684 


I always break the longer ODTB's up so that they fit into the NoseIt hole in any direction.  Like Lorna's animals, both of my boys LOVE them!  I built 2'x4' toy boxes out of 2x10's with a plywood bottom for them to roll the NoseIt's around in.  Chancey's dry lot is made out of electric fence tape and the NoseIt would roll out of his reach pretty quickly.  It took them no time at all to learn flip those things around in their toy boxes to get the ODTB's out!


Maggie, Chancey and Spiral in VA
March 2011
EC moderator/Primary Response


Re: Falce low ACTH?

Francis
 

I'm in the process of filling out her Case history but it's a lot of work ;)  I will do the resent things first and work back so her current info is available. 

Diet is tight, trim is right, I have a trimmer who is very experienced with getting laminitic horses back on track. He fixed her feet three years back when her feet became worse and worse from the work of another trimmer.  

Should I do what my vet said and bring the dosage up to 1 tablet or stay on 1/2 and see if she perks up on that and how soon should I see improvement after I started Prascend? How long does it take to kick in? Some say 2 weeks, others say 6... 

Will call about the bloodwork again tomorrow. It's been almost two weeks now since blood was drawn. 


--
Francis

May 2017, Deventer, Netherlands

Case History will follow soon. 


Re: Nose It vs. Shires Ball Feeder for ODTB cubes

 

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:25 am, jasperandstarsmom@... wrote:
Will the Shires Ball Feeder work with ODTB cubes?
How long did it take your horse to empty it?
How much did you put in it?
Of course every horse is different. My mares couldn't be bothered with Nose-Its. Based on my experience, I'm not sure it's money well spent on a 29 - 30 yo mare.
 
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Cass for Cayuse (PPID/IR) and Diamond (not)
Sonoma County, Calif. Oct. '12
Cayuse Photo Album
Cayuse Case History


Re: New here, does Star need new diet?

jasperandstarsmom@yahoo.com
 

Thank you Jaini, for helping me understand the feed analysis for the Standlee Timothy Cubes. I looked at all of them in the file, and it made me feel more comfortable to use them if needed, if the ODTB cubes end up a fail or too expensive.
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-Tina
Jan 2018, Hingham, WI
Star Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tina%20and%20Star
Star Photos https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=26772


Re: Nose It vs. Shires Ball Feeder for ODTB cubes

Angelika Busi
 

Hi Tina,

I had both, the Nose-it and the Shires slow feed ball. Both can be used with ODTB cubes. The Shires has a smaller hole and is a bit smaller than the larger Nose-it but since these cubes are small, it's not a problem. My mare is allergic to timothy so she gets alfalfa cubes and those hardly will fit into a Shire ball. Both balls are happily used by my horses and I credit them for keeping my guys sane in their stall with much limited turnout during the winter. However, if your horse is very playful and big, I still would get the Nose-it because within 4-5 months the Shire was  so dented by my Friesian/Morgan cross that I just replaced it with a Nose-it which is much more sturdy.
Hope that helps.


From: "jasperandstarsmom@... via Groups.Io" <jasperandstarsmom@...>
To: main@ECIR.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 1:26 PM
Subject: [ECIR] Nose It vs. Shires Ball Feeder for ODTB cubes

I have become suspicious that some of Star's PU/PD issue is psychogenic, so I wanted to get a slow feeder to put her current food in, but also something that would work with ODTB cubes when I get them in a few weeks. She currently uses a Prevent Feeder, which slows her down some, but not enough. She does not eat hay. I wanted to add something else to help occupy her time more, and see if it helps decrease her PU/PD. My husband is balking at me spending a large amount of money on something like the Nose It slow feeder, at the risk of it not working. The Shires Ball Feeder is readily available at TSC for an attractive price compared to the Nose It. 

Will the Shires Ball Feeder work with ODTB cubes?
How long did it take your horse to empty it?
How much did you put in it?

Thank You,

-Tina
Jan 2018, Hingham, WI
Star Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tina%20and%20Star
Star Photos https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=26772



Re: Cooper’s blood work

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Assuming he was not fasted before testing, he is neither IR nor PPID.What exactly happened in December?
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: New case of laminitis posted

aman1@...
 

I've reposted Janny's case history with an update of what's happened over the past couple of weeks plus our questions, which I'll put here as well.

1)    We didn’t want to wean her off gabapentin until she was off banamine.  Is there interaction of gaba and J-herb and/or AAKG or can we start them as soon as she is off banamine?

2)    She was on previcox for her hocks before all this started.  She is not on it now. I would think it should not be restarted at all at any time if she is on J-herb and AAKG, correct?

3)    Should we continue the SmartGut pellets, which she has been on for about 6 months? Do they conflict in any way with other things and/or are they needed?

4)    Any comments on our current treatment? 
Thanks,

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- Marti
February 2018
Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Marti%20and%20Janny%20K  .
Photos:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=24783


Re: Nose It vs. Shires Ball Feeder for ODTB cubes

Nancy C
 

I second Lorna's review. Additionally Nose-It is a strong supporter of the work done here.
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Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003

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Re: 2018 Equine Health Symposium

Nancy C
 

Of course he did!  But please keep speaking up.

Thanks Kelly.
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Nancy C in NH
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Re: Falce low ACTH?

Nancy C
 

I'll bow to the vets here, however, I would say you have to trust your guts to know what is going on. if you have the diagnosis and pergolide right, her trim right and her diet tight, she should improve. If she remained on the pergolide and did not perk up or improve, I'd be suspicious.

Case history and full review will help us a lot.

I'd also have a discussion with your clinic as to how exactly the sample was handled just to check that box.
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Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003

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Re: The DIY styrofoam boots for fast relief.. a question

Nancy C
 

Hi Lynn -

In my earlier message I was referring to the wedge that is attached to some of the Soft Ride pads

https://www.softrideboots.com/

I did not routinely cut out a wedge area from a flat pad.  I was usually using a flat pad cut to the shape of the foot/boot. There may be times when they appreciate that, if you can keep the rest of the pad in place with vet wrap or duct tape.
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Nancy C in NH
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Re: New Lab results

k frog
 

  I will likely continue to feed Splash this blue grass straw, as long as she continues to be stable. I will put the hay test in her case history and eventually get her back on minerals balanced to this hay. I’m trying to think positive here.
 Until then, fyi, ESC is 5.2, Starch is .4, WSC is 7.1, CP is 6.3.
 I should have an average of her daily hay consumption soon.
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Karen F

 

October 2013

Molalla, Oregon

Case History for Splash: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Karen%20and%20Splash

Photo Album for Splash: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1994

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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