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Daisy Shepherd
 

if a post message does not get an answer , is there a way to repost without rewriting the message, thanks, daisy and tiko
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0


Severe laminitis.

Successnow4you@...
 

I'm trying to find help for my dad's horse. I've read articles where some horses have been helped with shoes.  One vet says they can't help another said cute the tendons or put down


Re: Please send feed back on this hay analysis

Tanna
 

I think it's tough to find good safe hay here on west coast. Hopefully you can find something from the interior or something from mid Washington of if can find it. 

I found your Case History loosey goosey in the main Files section of the Case History group. Hope you don't mind that I put a copy in your individual folder! Should be able to see it now. 

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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)

Langley, BC, Canada

Tula Case History 
Hay Analysis I Hay Worksheet


Re: Please send feed back on this hay analysis

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Cheryl,

I don't see a case history,either.

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Lorna  in Kingston, Ontario, Canada
ECIR Moderator
2002
https://ecir.gro
ups.io/g/main/files/PPID%20and%20IR%20Success%20Stories/Success%20Story%20%233%20-%20Lorna%20and%20Ollies%20Story.pdf


 


Re: Please send feed back on this hay analysis

Cheryl Oickle
 

I thought so....not too good with my numbers...a no go again
Not sure why you can’t see my case history....perhaps under Jewel and Cheryl?? Or vice versa.
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Cheryl and Jewel
Oct 2018

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cheryl%20and%20Jewel

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=81063


Feeding after weight loss achieved

Banesbit@...
 

Hi all, 
i cant find a good way to search this question, so I’m just going to ask.  I have been feeding my horse 1.5% of his body weight and he has achieved some great weight loss, with minor setbacks.  Once he achieves his goal weight/body condition, what is the suggested rate of feeding?  Less than a non-Ir/Cushings horse? 
Vet said he was a 5.5 body conditiontwo weeks ago and would like him around a 4. He is probably a solid 5 now, as I can start to see a little ribs and his wither becoming more prominent.  Will the inappropriate  fat pads ever go away?  
Thanks
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Brittany Nesbit
Madison, WI
June 2019

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Brittany%20and%20Little%20Bill/Little%20Bill%20Case%20History.pdf

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=91216


Re: Equi-Analytical

Banesbit@...
 

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 05:50 PM, <bootsnbridles@...> wrote:
Sharing info- if you sent a sample to be tested last week it will be delayed. Their mineral analyzer had issues last week and they weren't able to fully analyze samples.

-Chris
May, 2019  Big Bear Lake, California
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chris%20and%20Monte  .

 Thank you for the information!  Any idea how delayed? I’m anxiously awaiting results as my boys is on no hay right now til I get results.  

Brittany Nesbit
Madison, WI
June 2019

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Brittany%20and%20Little%20Bill/Little%20Bill%20Case%20History.pdf

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=91216


Equi-Analytical

Chris Pennbo
 

Sharing info- if you sent a sample to be tested last week it will be delayed. Their mineral analyzer had issues last week and they weren't able to fully analyze samples.

-Chris
May, 2019  Big Bear Lake, California
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chris%20and%20Monte  .


Re: Updated Case History - Help Please

Deb Walker
 

Thank you for the suggestions all. I have an email out to customer service, but if I don't hear back will definitely call Soft Ride. Meanwhile, he is back in his Clouds with the Soft Ride gel inserts instead of the Cloud inserts.

At one point I did try 2 different pads, but it made the boot not fit right...the UW farriers were very thorough in explaining where the back of the boot should fit above the hoof. I have stuffed the sponge material in the toe and in the sides to no avail.
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Deb and Scotty
Northern Ilinois, May 13, 2019
Case History:
 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deb%20and%20Scotty
Photos:
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90619


Product advice

jonno17@...
 

There is a product I used to give Red before he was diagnosed IR called GT Performer  (australian product) my vet recommended it as he was having some issues with colic and ulcers, very stressy pony, he did very well whilst on the product and his attitude changed completely, we had no more colic episodes, his whole demeanour changed, since he came down with laminitis last year I've been too afraid to give it to him, he is stressing again and I'm quite confident ulcers are giving him a bit of grief, here is the ingredient list, there are a few things which stand out to me which may not be suitable now, could someone please advise?
:• Vitamin B
• Beta -glucans
• Probiotic Saccharomyces cerevisiae species
• Prebiotic Mannan-oligosaccharide (MOS) species
• Ground Grain Husks 
• Calcium .88%
• Phosphorus .68%
• Sodium .212%
• Zinc 215 ppm
• Iron 45ppm
• Copper 8ppm
• Potassium 1.10%
• Magnesium .29%
• Magnesese 110ppm
• Sulphur .24%
• Glucose 2.5%
• Maltose 2.0%
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Clarissa
November 2018-Red, Poppet
Tasmania, Australia 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Clarissa%20and%20Red_Poppet
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=79540


Re: Pergilode- other tricks to administer

Annette
 

As I understand it, some IR horses are sensitive to alfalfa, but unless they are very very sensitive, a small handful of pellets as a taste tempter is not going to cause a problem.  At the moment, Alley gets a total of 6 ounces of alfalfa pellets a day to increase the protein in her ration and to encourage her to eat her mineral balancer (beet pulp is not an option as far as she is concerned - some kind of pellets or nothing!) She seems to be doing well on that, but every horse is different. The handful of alfalfa pellets I use for the Prascend tablet weighs about an ounce.
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Annette and Alley
October 2018, Moscow, Idaho
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Alley%20Case%20History.pages.pdf .
Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78421  .


Need help interpreting Logo’s rising ACTH levels. Dr. Kellon

 

Hi,

Logo’s ACTH levels have continued to rise right through the spring to this week.  I have been addressing each of those increases with more pergolide, to no avail.  While he’s a bit ribby with long guard hairs, none of the more remarkable symptoms I might notice at this ACTH level are present.  I have not updated his case history intentionally.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thank you!
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Martha in Vermont
Logo, Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
July 2012

Logo's Case History: 
 


Re: Blood test result - low blood glucose?

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Marie,

Ahem. No such thing as a stupid question!

Yes,please get actual paperwork from your vet.

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Lorna  in Kingston, Ontario, Canada
ECIR Moderator
2002
https://ecir.gro
ups.io/g/main/files/PPID%20and%20IR%20Success%20Stories/Success%20Story%20%233%20-%20Lorna%20and%20Ollies%20Story.pdf


 


Blood test result - low blood glucose?

marie allen
 

Hi there my horse has just recovered from laminitis and had an in feed glucose test last week. The vet has phoned me today to say the good news is she doesn’t have equine metabolic syndrome which is good news but I’m puzzled by his comment - he said that the lab had asked if she’d eaten all the glucose as they didn’t think she had (she did - the bowl was licked clean). The vet’s comment was that perhaps her uptake of glucose is low. What could this mean? Could the EMS result be false warranting further testing or is this indicating something else is going on? I don’t have the actual results is it worth me requesting them? Sorry if this is a stupid question! Thanks 
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Marie and 15 hh TBXConnemara
May 2019


Re: Really, really subtle symptoms?

jmc
 

Thanks to you both. Since just ACTH, I'll just do the normal Cornell panel with  Dr. Kellon, I'll have to look at the pic again, but at the location where he may look cresty, he's missing his mane from that point, down to his wither.  it's quite thick above that point. His neck is a straight line from poll to wither. Was that what you are seeing? Or the slight widening of his neck at that point (is that still considered crest, even if the neck top isn't raised?)

Unfortunately we're dealing with a different problem today - he had a PSSM2 episode when being ridden this morning. Not a full tie up but a lot of spasmed muscles, and some fasticulations. Got that sorted, mostly (Banamine. Robaxin, Vitamin E), but vet will come out this evening to asses and take bloods to check on muscle enzymes.

The reason I mention this: does the muscle episode have possible implications for his (compensated) IR/ possible early PPID symptoms? Given he's IR, I'm not sure if a pain episode could trigger laminitis (hasn't in the past), and if I should do anything different besides the usual protocol following a tie up?

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Jodi
June 2018
NW Wyoming

Yankee Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jodi%20and%20Yankee

Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=54386


Re: Foundering !!! Need help !!!

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Successnow4you,

I'm sorry,I don't, but hopefully other members will be able to help.

But tell us more,so that we can help in any way possible.
What is the situation? 
What is your name?
Where are you? State is fine.

You must be frantic , but if we had details we could likely help, even before vet and farrier suggestions are made.


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Lorna  in Kingston, Ontario, Canada
ECIR Moderator
2002
https://ecir.gro
ups.io/g/main/files/PPID%20and%20IR%20Success%20Stories/Success%20Story%20%233%20-%20Lorna%20and%20Ollies%20Story.pdf


 


Re: Pergilode- other tricks to administer

Amy
 

Are the Alfalfa pellets ok for an IR horse?  Currently I'm giving 1/3 of a baby carrot with a hole drilled in with the pil . I know carrots aren't good for him but I figure the benefit of the pill outweighs the bad of a very small piece of carrot. It's all he will eat at the moment besides hay.  He wont eat any type of Stabul 1 or their treats. I still can't decide if it's his IR, cushings or something else.  Teeth seem fine but I wonder. Floated last fall, usually once a year. No fighting of the bit, no smell or nasal discharge.   After the bloodwork comes in, we may need to further investigate his teet . Seems a tad better but still more disinterested or lethargic than normal.  Baffling for sur . Felt like I had a good handle on this.  Usually when he wont eat grain/treats it's due to needing his pill increased
  Didn't work this time.  So wish they could tell us what they need.  Lol. Ugh
Thanks 
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- Amy 10-2016

Mooresville, Indiana 

Stormy, Case History, Photo Album

 


Test - please ignore.

 


Re: New Here- PPID but Compensated IR, High Responder Questions (Pasture, etc)

Melissa
 

Thank you! Can she have the Timothy balance cubes and beet pulp as basically the entirety of her forage ration? If using beet pulp should I balance Minerals differently?
Soon we are moving to VA and she will be put on a paddock paradise track system. It will be good to have before the fall grass comes. 

The no grass concept is definitely daunting especially since the whole herd is out 24/7. A learning curve. 
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- Melissa

June 2019 Columbus, OH

Rydel Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Melissa%20and%20Rydel/2019-06-16%20Rydel%20Case%20History.pdf

Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=91712


Re: Please send feed back on this hay analysis

Tanna
 

Cannot see your Case History but your message history shows that Jewel is pretty sensitive and has experienced problems with her feet. 

With Dry Matter converted to as fed this hay tests with ESC 10.76% and Starch 1.97%. = 12.73% combined.

I would concerned about feeding that unless you intend to soak. 😔

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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)

Langley, BC, Canada

Tula Case History 
Hay Analysis I Hay Worksheet

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