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Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

rebecca.ann.crowe@...
 

Lorna,
Yes, the case histories are up-to-date if I'm understanding correctly.  If I'm not, please let me know.  All of their hay, feed, and supplements are listed.
I meant I will update as we get the hay analysis and once I start Thunder on Prascend.  I also ordered chaste tree berry for the other two but have not yet received it but will update once they start taking it.  Thanks!
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Becky Crowe
Luck, Wisconsin, USA
Joined July 2019
Thunder Case History
Thunder Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93211
Soozee Case History
Soozee Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93212
Frodo Case History


Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

 

There are multiple lists online. This list is nice because it’s illustrated.
https://walworth.extension.wisc.edu/files/2014/03/A4019_ToxicPlantsWisconsinPasturesForages.pdf
This one is really extensive but probably contains many plants that only grow outside your region. https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control/horse-plant-list

Sorry the links are so wonky using my iPhone. 
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Cass for Cayuse (PPID/IR) and Diamond (IR)
Sonoma County, Calif. Oct. '12

Cayuse Case History                Cayuse Photos
Diamond Case History              Diamond Photos


Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

Lorna Cane
 

"I will update once we have results."

Is everything else updated  aside from the results, Becky? I wasn't sure,as I was looking for details,especially nutritional.

For you,and others reading, everything you can add will help,even without test results.


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Re: Blood test units

Tanna
 

Good converter and info here: 
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-converter.html

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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)
Langley, BC, Canada

Tula Case History 
Hay Analysis I Hay Worksheet


Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

rebecca.ann.crowe@...
 

For sure. Thank you! I will update once we have results.

In the meantime, it would be neglectful of me to not cover all possibilities. If anyone does have information on this or other plants to look for, it would be much appreciated. 
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Becky Crowe
Luck, Wisconsin, USA
Joined July 2019
Thunder Case History
Thunder Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93211
Soozee Case History
Soozee Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93212
Frodo Case History


Re: biotin/ dr. kellon

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Daisy,

It may have more to do with needing an overall mineral balancing plan to go with your hay which I don't believe you have at this point.  Hopefully one of the vets will chime in as well when they have a moment.



Re: Blood test questions

Leonora B-C
 

Hi Cass

Thanks for this.  I am still on a steep learning curve about what to look out for with Guinness and signs of less than ideal PPID control.  I agree that lab numbers aren't the be-all and end-all (treat the patient, not the numbers, I recall).  But I've got to keep my vet on board, because of the prescription-only status of pergolide.

You and others have confirmed that I should get bloods done in the next few days, to establish G's status before the dreaded seasonal rise; I've arranged a vet visit for 30th July.

It's so kind of you to take the time to respond to my questions - thank you.


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Leonora & Guinness
Oxfordshire, UK
Joined May 2018
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Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Becky,

You will also notice  much-desired results , too, after you get your hay results back( well done!) and can get the minerals into them which are needed to balance their hay. You will be able to feed the required minerals,in proper ratios, the latter being really important.

Good for you for getting things rolling.😊


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Lorna  in Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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2002
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Re: Thunder - Soozee - Frodo hoof mark-ups

rebecca.ann.crowe@...
 

I was able to download everything, and I've passed all this on to my farrier. We have a trim coming soon in the next week. I'll post updates afterward.  Thanks again for the wealth of information.
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Becky Crowe
Luck, Wisconsin, USA
Joined July 2019
Thunder Case History
Thunder Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93211
Soozee Case History
Soozee Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93212
Frodo Case History


Re: Jesse sore

LJ Friedman
 

Pix loaded. Lavinia, mark ups please.  Not urgent but will use for next trim and with a new Farrier if u dont like this trim that was done from s different new Farrier.  Thanks . 
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 


Blood test units

Bonnie
 

Test results for glucose came as mmol/L. Is this equivalent to ulU/mL? (Which is equivalent to mU/L, right?)
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Bonnie and Lad
North Ontario
Dec 2008
 


Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

rebecca.ann.crowe@...
 

Thank you. Yes, I am certain of that as well. I’m not searching for a replacement of that intervention or diminishing that information.  We are taking that seriously, and it is in progress. 

The overarching research is based on the fact that of the seven horses we have in our herd, five now have ongoing issues where they didn’t before. Two have developed them acutely after being with us for a few years having had no previous problems at their former homes. I realize that can be like trying to unravel a tangled web given the amount of factors we have to account for. Our hay analysis results should be back this week, and toxicity is another avenue I’m exploring based on how widespread it is in our herd despite long term dietary intervention prior to reaching out here. 
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Becky Crowe
Luck, Wisconsin, USA
Joined July 2019
Thunder Case History
Thunder Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93211
Soozee Case History
Soozee Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93212
Frodo Case History


Re: Toxic plants - fleabane?

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Becky,

Not to say that there is not an issue with plants.
But if you are able to focus on Lavinia's awesome advice about the hoof issues,and get their trims where they need to be, I am positive you will be gobsmacked by improvement in comfort levels and hoof health.


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Re: Blood test questions

 

Hi, Leonora. I would like to mention that many of us adjust pergolide dose to symptoms rather than test results. I have good results improving symptoms that way. When it comes to the seasonal rise, I try to avoid being behind the curve, if you understand the mixed metaphor. Each horse has early warning systems. My horse’s is runny eyes. I get confirmation of a miss about 3-4 months later when we see hoof wall separation. 
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Cass for Cayuse (PPID/IR) and Diamond (IR)
Sonoma County, Calif. Oct. '12

Cayuse Case History                Cayuse Photos
Diamond Case History              Diamond Photos


can IR/Cushings/EPM horse get DMSO IV

vicky monen
 

Hi,
Another question about my IR/Cushings/EPM guy. 

With EPM treatments can an IR/Cushings horse receive DMSO IV treatments as well?

The vet had suggested another option for EPM meds with Marquis and adding in DMSO IV Treatments. If the Oriquin doesn't work well this time around.

Thanks--
Vicky Monen and Samson

Aug 2015, Alpharetta Ga.

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https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Vicky%20and%20Samson


Toxic plants - fleabane?

rebecca.ann.crowe@...
 

As we search for any underlying causes of our herd's founder, I've been looking at some of the plants in our hay field to check for toxicity since none of them are on green pasture. I'm familiar with the 'big names' in plants toxic to horses, and we know we have none or minimal amounts of those. I've come across a lot of daisy fleabane (erigeron annuus) in our fields. There is some indication that it can cause skin irritation when touched and gastrointestinal symptoms, neither of which we have. Does anyone know if it can cause inflammation or anything else that would trigger laminitis when ingested?

https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ERAN

Or, do you know of any other less-well-known culprits I could check for?
Many thanks!
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Becky Crowe
Luck, Wisconsin, USA
Joined July 2019
Thunder Case History
Thunder Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93211
Soozee Case History
Soozee Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=93212
Frodo Case History


Re: Flax

Bonnie
 

Hello Deb, I sympathize with your determination to keep Scotty as well as possible although you struggle physically. Blessings on you for that! Re Flax, I buy whole flax seed from a feed dealer (she splits 50# bags into 10# for customers with only one horse) and use my Salton coffee grinder. It takes less than 10 seconds to grind it - you only need to break the seed coat to make it more digestible: it does not need to be a fine powder. I have had the grinder for more than 10 years. Best $20 I ever spent on a gadget.
-- Salton Coffee and Spice Grinder, Hold Upto 65 Grams of Coffee Beans, 10-Cups of Coffee, White
Bonnie and Lad
North Ontario
Dec 2008
 


Re: Is APF needed for general wellness in an IR horse that is recovering from founder?

Lorna Cane
 
Edited

Hi Tanna,

Not sure enough to advise, but Auburn Labs  will know:

CALL: 1-877-661-3505
WRITE: PO Box 147
Penn Valley, CA 95946
EMAIL: info at auburnlabs dot com


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2002
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Re: Is APF needed for general wellness in an IR horse that is recovering from founder?

Tanna
 

How long is the shelf life of APF? 

I have dropped my mare's dose of Prascend, to favourable results and improvements in her veil like symptoms, but might need to bump up again during the fall. I wouldn't mind having APF on board but how long could it keep for unused?


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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)
Langley, BC, Canada

Tula Case History 
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Re: Is APF needed for general wellness in an IR horse that is recovering from founder?

Lorna Cane
 
Edited

Hi Tucker.

Yes. Go to the Start Here folder, in our Files.

Scroll down to Commonly Used Abbreviations.


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Lorna  in Kingston, Ontario, Canada
ECIR Moderator
2002
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