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Re: Journey of Lamintis and Abcess

Bobbie Day
 

Oh my gosh Nancy, that is absolutely amazing and so encouraging.
Thanks for sharing ❤️


--
Bobbie and Desi
Utah, Nov 2018

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Desi

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78821


Case history and Xrays

Eraffell@...
 

Hi, would it be possible for someone to review my case history and images please?
not sure if I am meant to post and ask as I am still trying to find my way round the site so apologies if what I am doing is wrong. 

--
Erika Raffell UK 2019
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Erika%20and%20Robbie


Re: new labs and hay; questions; please dr. kellon

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Probably. Leptin seems to be most reliable as an indicator of weight.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Advise on giving Metformin

 

Thank you everyone for the advise. Adding a little flax is a great idea since it creates so much dust!
--
Beth & Flame

NV Oct 2013

Flame Case History

Flame Pictures


Journey of Lamintis and Abcess

Nancy & Vinnie & Summer
 

Hi,
I have added some images to my album of that illustrates our journey of how Vinnies very mild laminitis in 11/2018 turned into a massive medial access in June 2019 and ended in sloughing the medial hoof wall on his left front.

I post as moral support for anyone that needs to know that there is light at the end of what seems like a very long dark tunnel. Xx
--
Nancy and Vinnie
Oakley, Ca
Joined Nov 2018
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855


Re: Hoof trim

Deborah Lesdalons
 

Hi Lavinia,

I've taken the photos you wanted. Not easy getting him to stand on three legs so if any aren't clear enough just let me know and I'll do them again.
Many thanks,
--
-Deborah and Baladin.

August 2016,
Drôme, France
Baladin Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deborah%20and%20Baladin%20-%20Veloutine%20-%20Eglantine/Baladin
Baladin's Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=70560


Re: Target's trim

Cindy Q
 

Suggestion, get your trimmer to come and help take a full set of updated pictures. Pay her for the visit and help. Upload those pictures. Then contact Lavinia for full markups for a paid consult.

Also Lorna did a helpful thing to hunt down Lavinia's last advice to you: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/248449
Lavinia mentioned that trimmer did a good job. Not sure what happened to her but where possible I would get her to help with the photos and the trim again. It just makes sense.

Personally I would NOT cut out the frog part of the pads. The frog part being puffed out shows that the frog did not get much contact with pad. By cutting out that part of the pad, you have the frog more suspended and up in the air than before. I would try a thin triangle glued on to the main pad where the frog would be even (I say thin so you don't over load the frog) - basically need to observe how your horse responds and then you can remove it, keep it, increase it depending on what he likes best. 

Good luck.

--
Cindy and Glow - Sep 2017, Singapore
ECIR Primary Response





Re: Update: getting worse - help!

Mary M.
 

Hi Carly, 
When i used to use a grazing muzzle, i put a low-sugar treat in it as i put it on. My mare got used to associating it with a treat and willingly stuck her nose in. I taped a lot of padding to it to keep it from rubbing (before putting it on). I used those fuzzy things and go on halters. 
Good luck 
Mary and Katie
Chelsea, MI 2013

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Mary%20and%20Katie


Re: Cavalor Fiber Force Availability

celestinefarm
 

Ferne,
Thanks for the update. I had been told by one of the Cavalor reps two years ago that Cavalor North America planned to import whatever equipment they needed to produce FiberForce here in the US. She didn't have any idea when that was going to take place.  I always thought it was the alfalfa stems that would be hard to get here in the USA, as the specialized equipment to produce just stems was only in Europe from what I had researched.
Cavalor Strucomix Original has alfalfa stems in it now, whereas FiberForce no longer says Alfalfa stems, but says ground alfalfa instead. Strucomix Original , Senior, and the other products sold here in the USA are now produced in the GA mill, only the FiberForce is still imported from Belgium.


I will  be happy if it is all produced in GA. 
--
Dawn Wagstaff and Tipperary   

Saline, MI  2003

Tipperary Case History

Juniper Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Dawn%20and%20Juniper/Case%20history%20Juniper.pdf .


Re: Target's trim

LJ Friedman
 

I know nothing about trims, made something like Magic Cushion help?
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 


Re: Senior Gelding Diagnosed with cushings and having bladder issues

Cindy Q
 

Hi Jess

The link I gave you for forage sample kit has been changed. This should be the new one: https://dairyone.com/shop/equi-analytical-mailer-kit/

Also, to add a bit of background Dr Kellon gave you a Uckele email address to - she does free hay balancing for ECIR members who are using Uckele products.

--
Cindy and Glow - Sep 2017, Singapore
ECIR Primary Response





Re: new labs and hay; questions; please dr. kellon

Daisy Shepherd
 


-- dr kellon,  leptin is 4.6; lowest ever; do you think that is a reflection of keeping weight down in spite of no exercise x6 weeks; vit e at 398.  thank you, daisy and tiko
-- 
Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0


Re: Target's trim

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Kathie,

Did you read all of Lavinia's post to you on April 4th?

I didn't see a request for markups, but here is the post number,and the last part of her message in that post.

Message 248449

"Trim was done on March 20 (based on the dates in the photos) so you don't need another trim until 4 weeks later. Trim will need to maintain the toe length (at ground level) and breakover where they are now - don't allow it to creep forward again. Need to add bevels to the very backs of the heels but don't lower them or the HPA will become worse. Trim only loose tags off the frogs while allowing them to callous over properly. The stretched tip of the frog will begin to dangle at some point - then you can trim it off. Have a read on Pete Ramey's site for some more in-depth information on what you are looking to accomplish:"

http://www.hoofrehab.com/Breakover.html
http://www.hoofrehab.com/HeelHeight.html
http://www.hoofrehab.com/HorsesSole.html


Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002


 


Re: Target's trim

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Kathie,

Have you had your first set of free mark-ups yet?  You do need to ask specifically for them, and do your best to follow the photo guidelines at the following link:

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/How-to-Get-Trim-Evaluations

If you have had your free markups done already, you can pay for any subsequent ones, again by specifically requesting them on this forum.  I know Lavinia charges MUCH less than some other online trimmers do, so it is very reasonable for her time and knowledge, especially as her markups are incredibly detailed.

--
Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
Shaku's Case History  
Shaku's Photo Album   


Re: Questions About Bloodwork Scheduled Next Week

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

To clarify, what I meant was that if he normally runs out of hay overnight, testing needs to be at least 4 hrs after he starts eating hay again in the morning.  Your situation sounds like there is the choice for continuous overnight hay feeding so you won't have to worry about an insulin surge in the morning with his first meal.  :)

--
Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
Shaku's Case History  
Shaku's Photo Album   


Re: Questions About Bloodwork Scheduled Next Week

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

No problem, Tiffany. That set up is fine.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Senior Gelding Diagnosed with cushings and having bladder issues

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

The Balance Cubes are high calcium too.

The problem is most species regulate calcium absorption. Horses do not, absorbing as much as they can then excreting in the excess in urine which creates the "sludge" in the bladder.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Questions About Bloodwork Scheduled Next Week

Tiffany
 

Thanks everyone! I heard from my vet this morning and they found the TRH thankfully but he didn't say where they sourced it. With regard to the hay -- he is on a dry lot with his herd and they have a round bale enclosed in a "slow feeder." Its not your typical slow feeder (the squares are not small), but the stable is trying and I appreciate that. Removing him from the hay/herd may create some stress which would skew the results. Its supposed to be cool, gusty winds, and maybe even rainy that day too. I thought hay was ok, just not his ration balancer or outlast. Did I miss something? Will this still interfere with the IR aspect of testing?
--
Tiffany
Lincoln County, MO
April 2020
Hollywood Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tiffany%20and%20Hollywood
Hollywood Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245376


Re: Cavalor Fiber Force Availability

ferne fedeli
 

Someone from Cavalor actually called me on the phone this morning and said that yes they were experiencing shortages and hoped to be back on schedule within the month.  They now are gearing up to producing it in the US and are still getting some shipments from Europe.  Their first shipments will be going out this week, although not enough product yet to fill all orders.  Hope we can all get what we need soon!
--

Ferne Fedeli  Magic & Jack   2007

No. California
Case History

 

 


Re: Senior Gelding Diagnosed with cushings and having bladder issues

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Jess,

Until you get his hay tested you may want to consider using Timothy Balance Cubes which are distributed by Triple Crown in the US as Naturals Timothy Balance Cubes (https://www.triplecrownfeed.com/products/timothy-balance-cubes/).  These have a guaranteed analysis and can be used in place of hay.  It's difficult to answer your other questions without having the case history information so I look forward to seeing that once you get it completed.



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