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Re: Adiponectin
Helen Connor
Thanks, Sherry. I saw Nancy's post. I was just seeking clarification. Thanks for that.
Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID) Scappoose, OR ECIR Member since May 2017 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Helen%20and%20Blessing Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=6847 -- Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID) Scappoose, OR Member since May 2017 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Helen%20and%20Blessing Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=6847
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Re: Metformin - Why, When and How to Use
Clare Summers
That’s a great document, thank you Martha for your hard work!
Would it be possible to share some of the references used? Obviously referencing in an Article format is time consuming, but if you could include a few of the reference articles it helps when we’re discussing this with our veterinarian and gives it/us more credibility. Thank you :) -- Clare in NS, Canada 2020 Cory; IR/EMS 2000 ASB mare
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Re: Adiponectin
Sherry Morse
Hi Helen, Perhaps you missed Nancy's recent post with regard to leptin testing? https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/253175 However, with regard to your question - in the US adiponectin does not replace leptin testing.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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Adiponectin
Helen Connor
I just want to confirm that we in the U.S. are NOT including adiponectin in our Cornell bloodwork, but the U.K. does. Adiponectin does NOT replace leptin, right?
-- Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID) Scappoose, OR Member since May 2017 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Helen%20and%20Blessing Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=6847
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Re: Bloodwork after first laminitic episode
Hi Kelly,
Here is your photo Album link,for your signature. https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=251736 -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Re: Bloodwork after first laminitic episode
I will add ASAP but I am traveling for work and away from the file needed.....
3/14/2009 TRH Stim pre 21.6pg/mL (range 1-40) post 185 pg/mL (range 9-110) added 1 mg prascend repeat TRH 6/21/2019 pre; 76.6 ( but was having breathing problems and was nebluzing dex) post: 93.7 I am getting all my files together to add to complete case history and trying to make a link to my photos for xrays thank you so much for your time and advice -- Kelly Gilmartin/Buddy Western Massachusetts member since 2019 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kelly%20and%20Apostrophe%20GCH
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Re: Posting a new photo
Patricia Evans
I just posted a photo of Snickers front hoof. My vet said she thought it was the start of an auto-immune issue and wanted me to start applying a dex paste to his coronary band to "control" it, which I refused. I thought it was just his normal hoof growing out, but when I took pics and was able to see it close up on the screen, it does look different. Has anyone seen an example of a hoof based auto-immune disease in a horse? I looked it up on Google, but every picture looked very different from this and he has NO coronary band bumps, blisters, drainage, etc. Any ideas? She has me worried now. He is IR, possibly beginning PPID, but his ACTH was within range when his blood was taken in June and he had been off the Prascend for a month at that time, and was only on the Prascend during the seasonal rise last year.
-- Patricia North central Florida July 7 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Patricia%20and%20Dancer%20and%20Nathan Nathan: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=94152
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Re: Posting a new photo
Patricia Evans
Thanks, but I finally figured it out!
-- Patricia North central Florida July 7 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Patricia%20and%20Dancer%20and%20Nathan Nathan: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=94152
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Posting a new photo
Patricia Evans
OK, I don't know what I did, but I can't get a new photo to post and I can't seem to be able to fix it. I can find my photo album, Patricia and Snickers, with his last two radiographs in it, but there are no clickable blue buttons. Can some one help me with this please?
-- Patricia North central Florida July 7 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Patricia%20and%20Dancer%20and%20Nathan Nathan: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=94152
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Re: Rule Change at FDA would raise compounded drug prices by 300% or more
#legalityofpergolide
Signed and sent. Carol Walters
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:43 PM Barbara Rosensteel <brosensteel9@...> wrote: ... Please read below and click on the link near the end to send a message to your Representative and Senators.
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Re: Uncontrolled founder pain
Filaree drank a decent amount of water after I sent my email this morning. She's lying flat down, groaning softly and nibbling-half-heartedly on a few strands of soaked hay I put next to her. Maybe the meds I syringed are beginning to take affect. Fingers crossed!
-- Suzie Kirkwood Descanso, CA 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Suzie%20and%20Filaree https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=250438
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Re: We are getting there...
Judy and Bugsy
Thanks Lavinia,
Trimmer was out and I've posted the post-trim pictures in Bugsy's album. I'm thinking there needs to be more top down rasping to address the flares and I'm also wondering about if the bevel on all 4 feet is back far enough?? --
Judy and Bugsy Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Feb. 25, 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Judy%20and%20Bugsy
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Re: Update on Flirt
Sherry Morse
Hi Roger, There's almost no doubt that the improved trim is going a long way to make Flirt feel better. If you consider that some of his insulin production may be related to pain, as his trim is improved and he is in less pain from that there may be more on an insulin drop in the future. I would think, as we recommend with NSAIDs that you may want to slowly
decrease Flirt's Tylenol dose so you don't see a rebound effect but aim
for having him off of it completely within 2 weeks or so. As far as the hay balancing, you can find a list of approved balancers in the files: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/6%20Diet%20Balancing and scroll down to the file named Hay Balancing.pdf.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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Re: Update on Flirt
Roger Benson
Thank you Dr. Kellon. Flirt has been on L-Car since early January when his insulin was greater than 200. Do you think the L-Car is working more effectively than the metformin did? Would you agree that sugar and starch are within the acceptable range? Thank you again
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Re: Island Horse 14%Supplement / WAS Insulin Bloodwork...increasing
The Starch is 12.81% Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Re: Uncontrolled founder pain
After tapering down to a 250 pound daily dosey of banamine and holding that for 4 days, we stopped the banamine yesterday. This morning Filaree would not eat the bucket with her tramadol and metformin even with sugar free peppermint candy in it. She laid down all night, pooped and peed where she laid. I got her up to take off the Numotizine poultice and put her Cloud boots back on. She laid back down close to the fence. With much effort we got her up again and syringed her meds and moved her into the arena where she has more room and softer footing. She's not eating or drinking this morning. This is pretty scary, since she lives to eat! I have a different vet coming tomorrow afternoon to check her out. Our regular vet is coming Thursday afternoon to take blood to recheck her insulin levels and take more xrays. I hope she can stand long enough, even with nerve blocks. I'm trying hard to follow Dr K's instructions, but she's not here and it's getting harder. Filaree was pretty alert and cooperative during her trim last Wednesday. She's feeling much worse now.
-- Suzie Kirkwood Descanso, CA 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Suzie%20and%20Filaree https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=250438
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Metformin - Why, When and How to Use
A new doc with general information about Metformin is now available in the FILES.
ECIR PR volunteer Martha compiled this to help answer general questions that come up often about this drug. https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/4%20Insulin%20Resistance/Metformin/Metformin%2008.08.20%20FINAL.pdf Many thanks Martha!!! -- Nancy C in NH ECIR Moderator 2003 ECIR Group Inc. President/Treasurer 2019-2020 Join us at the 2021 NO Laminitis! Conference, August 12-15, Harrisburg, PA
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Re: Bloodwork after first laminitic episode
Could you please put your TRH Stim results in your case history?
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: Bloodwork after first laminitic episode
We don't have seasonally adjusted values for the TRH stimulation but it's early in the rise so a glaringly abnormal test would likely be abnormal. Send directly to Cornell using their sample protocol.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Bloodwork after first laminitic episode
Hi,
l am having metabolic panel at Cornell run again, an ACTH and a repeat TRH stim along with the iron stuff from KSU. We just had a laminitic episode and I pulled him off pasture and am only feeding soaked and rinsed beet pulp without molasses and his supplements. my question is, how should I interpret the bloodwork given we are in the seasonal rise? Should I do bloodwork or wait? I am just fearful he will have another bout of laminitis if I don’t check but not sure how one will be able to interpret those results given our time fo year. -- Kelly Gilmartin/Buddy Western Massachusetts member since 2019 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kelly%20and%20Apostrophe%20GCH
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