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Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

Helen Connor
 


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Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID)
Scappoose, OR
Member since May 2017
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Re: Fires and evacuation space available

Helen Connor
 

I hope I'm not repeating info that's already been posted. 

There is an international group called Cowboy 911 on Facebook. They are an all-volunteer nonprofit that has been helping evac livestock and pets in California, and now in Oregon and Washington. Terri, you might post your availability there. See https://www.facebook.com/groups/270203390408097/.

Stay safe and good luck.
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Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID)
Scappoose, OR
Member since May 2017
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Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

gypsylassie
 

Dr. Kellon, ever since Chappie was diagnosed I've  had to buy hay from several different sources to get enough each year.   Out of 6 different hay loads from 2017 thru 2020,  there were 3 with  WSC + Starch over 10%.  Would you like separate  votes for the 3 above 10% and one to represent the below 10% loads?   Chappie has been fine with all of them.  
Laura K Chappie & Beau over the bridge
2011 N IL


Fires and evacuation space available

TERRI JENNINGS
 

Ann’s post made me think about how hard we all work to keep our four legged kids healthy. It really does take a lot of attention to detail. We have been posting our available pasture space for any evacuated horses on Facebook but so far no one has needed it.  We are in Arcata, CA.  If anyone needs space during these horrible fires please let us know. All of my horse help is well trained in medicating, testing and soaking hay, picky eaters, first aid, and paying attention to the details of caring for our high maintenance IR and PPID horses.  Please message or call 707-845-8737 if you need a safe space for your horses.   
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Terri Jennings with Teeny, Finn and Elliott
Arcata, CA
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Joined 2019


Re: top line,

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Sandy,

Without a case history and pictures it's almost impossible for us to answer this question.  Has this mare ever actually been diagnosed with IR?  I believe from looking at previous messages she is PPID which can cause a loss of muscle tone if it isn't treated.  Is she being treated for it?  What is her current weight?  What is her ideal weight?  Is she having soundness issues?  If not, how much is she being exercised?

Again, thee are many reasons for loss of topline in a normal horse, but without knowing details there's no way to even begin to address this question.



Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

 

Dr. Kellon and I seem to be traveling on the same plane... :-) But seriously, folks...
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Kathleen (KFG in KCMO)

Director and Research Advisor, ECIR Group Inc.

Missouri, USA, 2005

https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=3-I7UI0AAAAJ 

 


Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

 

Just a note to encourage everyone reading this to consider taking this poll and as a reminder, you need to add WSC and starch to get NSC. 
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Kathleen (KFG in KCMO)

Director and Research Advisor, ECIR Group Inc.

Missouri, USA, 2005

https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=3-I7UI0AAAAJ 

 


Re: top line,

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Could you post a few photos from different angles? Topline is about 50% muscle and 50% fat. Unless the tips of her spine are protruding up higher than the muscle on either side of them, her muscling is normal.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Just a reminder here that we do NOT want your ESC + starch number.  This poll wants to know WSC + starch, which is NSC.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Thinking about possible fire evacuation logistics/how quickly do ACTH levels if pergolide can't be given for a few days?

AnnCN
 

Thank you Dr Kellon and Cass.  This is very helpful.  Much appreciated.

And I'll look for your evacuation list Cass.  Thanks for pointing that out!  Yes, it's stressful,  especially when you have large animals that you can't just throw in a car on a minute's notice.  We don't have our own truck and trailer, so there's that complication too which is why I moved them earlier this week - my friend was passing by with space in her trailer and open paddocks at her other barn.

Best,
Ann
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Ann Carney Nelson
"mom" to Lolly (20 yr old EMS/PPID Welsh pony who foundered in July 2019)
Joined ECIR in Sept 2019
Eugene, Oregon

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top line,

Sandy Gazzard
 

hi, my mare has lost her weight,her cresty neck,but now she has lost it all from her to line.she has no grass, adlib late cut low sugar hay.her digestion is bang on now. ive  been leading her over ploes to help her to line. what else can I do? she has mineral balancer, hay cob nuts and pura beet.and salt. and is kept on a track on a hill. 
any thoughts ,
many thanks
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sandy
, joined 27th January 2020. location. Cornwall-England


cavallo and bell boot

Lecia Martin
 

Hi Kirsten,  I uploaded a picture of the cavallo and bell boot combo. Working my way thru this.  Hope it is clear enough.
Thanks
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Lecia Flyte and Flame
Alberta, Canada


Re: case history

 

Daisy, there’s a link to your case history, and one to your photos, in your signature.  If you look for a message you’ve sent, such as the one I’m replying to, you will see it there.  Or you can find it on your signature page by clicking on the ‘Subscription’ tab.   Once you get to it, you can bookmark it to find it more easily, unless your bookmarks need paring, as mine do.
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Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

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Re: case history

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Daisy, there is a link to it in your signature so any message you have posted has it.  I checked and it works.  Or start a new topic  (without posting it) to see and click on the link in your signature. 
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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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Re: Cornell insulin over 200

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

The 200 uIU/mL is the upper limit of the assay they started using a few years ago so to get an actual number the sample has to be diluted when it's high - e.g. dilute  in half then double the result you get, etc. I don't know who made the decision to just report greater than 200 when it's high but the director did tell me they will do the extra work to get an actual number if requested.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: UK bloodwork results help for Red and Kim

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Yes, his diet can be loosened up. If you can locate someone with a thermography unit it would be very helpful to scan his tendons after turnout.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: How do you tell it’s Winter Laminitis before the cold comes?

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Judy,

There's no way to tell ahead of time.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Thinking about possible fire evacuation logistics/how quickly do ACTH levels if pergolide can't be given for a few days?

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

There are individual variations but ACTH starts to rise again within 4 days.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Thinking about possible fire evacuation logistics/how quickly do ACTH levels if pergolide can't be given for a few days?

 

Ann, I'm sorry you have to make these plans. When I had to evacuate in 2017 and forgot to pack the pergolide, my mare managed without incident for the day and a half it took to track down her meds. She wasn't on a high dose at the time, only 1 ½ Prascend, having been diagnosed only 6 months earlier.  That may be a critical difference with your horse.

I did post about my evacuation plans on ECHorsekeeping. I find that lists help when I'm stressed and scared.
https://ecir.groups.io/g/Horsekeeping/message/27278

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Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012
ECIR Group Moderator
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Re: New Poll - Important #poll-notice

Tanna
 

No recent tests but put in a vote for over 12% using hay analysis for a time when my mare tested as compensated IR. 

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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)
Langley, BC, Canada

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