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Re: Feed recommendations please

celestinefarm
 

Allison, just to help you out regarding the Timothy Balance cubes, here is the link to Ontario Dehy. Aurelio Henriques is the president of the company and a long time member here. You can call or email Ontario Dehy at the contact numbers at the bottom of the link page and they will help you with getting the cubes. Aurelio has helped many a member here get cubes years ago when they were very limited in distribution.  they are much more widely distributed and availble. He and the company are very responsive and will do whatever he can to get you access to the cubes.

-- http://www.ontariodehy.com/index.html#footer01-a

Dawn Wagstaff and Tipperary   

Saline, MI  2003

Tipperary Case History

Juniper Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Dawn%20and%20Juniper/Case%20history%20Juniper.pdf .


Re: New Member - Bullitt Laminitis

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Bonnie (and everybody else),

The correct link is https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=253052 and I'm sure Lavinia will edit the post once she sees the email I sent her about that mystery folder.  Of all the weird things I've seen Groups.io do - that one is definitely one of the most bizarre.




Re: Trailering to get ACTH and insulin test?

Judy and Bugsy
 

Excellent. Thank you very much Dr K. The angles you mentioned are very helpful since it’s hard to get the 3D effect by watching You tube videos. 


I will practice on a roast/chicken for sure. Great tips!  


Thanks Maxine, I will be mindful of my position compared to Bugsy’s shoulder. 
--

 

Judy and Bugsy

Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Feb. 25, 2020

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Judy%20and%20Bugsy
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=243358

 




Re: Feed recommendations please

Allison
 

An update to the swollen sheath issue...

Took him out for a couple of hours trail riding yesterday. W/T/C hills, etc. Came home and the swelling had diminished from estimated 75% to 20%. HUGE difference. 
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Allison in Ontario 2020


Re: Rye hay?

Tucker
 

Thank you, I have been researching and found the same. I will keep searching for a better source of hay. 
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Tucker and Indigo
NC, Nov 2018
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tucker%20and%20Indigo 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=80036 
 


Re: New Member - Bullitt Laminitis

Bonnie
 

Hello Lavinia, I like to look at your markups for people for learning purposes: but the link in this post says "Heat Shield For Clutch in Vanguard".
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Bonnie and Lad
North Ontario
Dec 2008
 


Re: High insulin and when to restest

vicky monen
 

would it be safe to say that as soon as i get the insulin down, I can then start the EPM treatment?  Do you know if the EPM meds affect the insulin during treatment? 

Thank you!
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Vicky Monen and Samson

Aug 2015, Alpharetta Ga.

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1226

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Vicky%20and%20Samson


Re: Need Advice ASAP -- PPID/IR Horse Won't Walk

Cheryl Oickle
 

Words of encouragement sent your way. Dont give up. My beloved Jewel experienced the exact same thing including rotation to both fronts in 2017. I almost had her put down in Oct of that year but found this group after 6 months of heartache. Be patient, be kind to yourself, and take LOTS of time to rehab her once the pain subsides, like months. Follow this groups suggestions and DDT and E. It gives your horse the best chance.
Hang in there. 
Forward to 2020...We are riding again up to 100 miles a month. She is 19 and fitter than ever. 

--
Cheryl and Jewel
Oct 2018
Port Alberni BC Canada
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cheryl%20and%20Jewel
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=81063


Re: Where to load photos for hoof mark ups

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Sue,

Perhaps you missed this message? https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/254643  All the directions you should need are in the welcome letter you received when you joined the group as well as in the Wiki. 



Where to load photos for hoof mark ups

Sue
 

Where do I go to load photos for mark ups?

Help please. Thank you.
--
Sue M in OH 2019


Re: High insulin and when to restest

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Vicki,

Insulin related to diet changes will occur very quickly. The rule of thumb for pergolide effects is 3 weeks but there is some evidence that increases in dosage made during the seasonal rise may not show effects on ACTH until after the rise is over.

--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: concern with weight and energy.

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

No.  The DE on soaked hay will be lower, sometimes much lower with low fiber hay. Dry a small soaked sample and have that retested with a short package like the basic (09) wet chemistry here https://dairyone.com/services/forage-laboratory-services/analytical-service-packages/
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: feed question post laminitis

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 


Re: Need Advice ASAP -- PPID/IR Horse Won't Walk

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Susan,

First, there's no room for regretting the past. It can't be changed and thinking about it is counterproductive. Don't assume there's anything irreparable here either. Definitely post those films as soon as you get them, and ask your regular vet to take views to rule out a fracture if that's necessary.  Even the rotation  may not be what you think if his feet need to be trimmed.

As for the bute, keep it on board until you get the alternatives. You will then double up while you wean off the bute, not go cold turkey. Just remember it's prolonging his pain, not helping it.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Feed recommendations please

Allison
 

Hi Terri, thank you for your information. My local vet is unfortunately not very cooperative and the closest Vet school is 8-9 hrs away. Good tidbit about the local sourcing of nitrogen!! I'm going to contact another vet today who sometimes comes to our area to see if he has any experience treating.
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Allison in Ontario 2020


Re: Trailering to get ACTH and insulin test?

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

If you hold the syringe between your thumb and first finger, rest the side of your hand firmly against the horse's neck, the entry angle will be good.  You want a 30 to 45 degree angle with the vein. Use your other hand to hold off the vein and make it stand up.

Good to practice on a roast or skinless piece of chicken. The more hesitant and slow you are in getting the needle in, the more painful it is. Another thing to watch out for is accidentally pulling the needle out again when you reposition your fingers after placing the needle.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Rye hay?

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Rye tends to run very high S/S.  One problem with mixed hays is that even if the mixture tests OK the horse will always tend to pick through it for the tastiest parts and leave the rest.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Question about Non-Fasting blood draw for Insulin

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

For the best comparison, free feed overnight just like you did last time.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


High insulin and when to restest

vicky monen
 

Hi,
How long should I wait to retest the Insulin levels after making a hay change and increasing  the prascend?  My guy had high insulin levels at last blood draw. 
My last post was originally posted on 9-13-20 but I didnt hear back.  It may have had to much content and confusing.  As it was about high insulin and high EPM titers. 

Thank you for your help and suggestions.

Vicky Monen and Samson

Aug 2015, Alpharetta Ga.

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1226

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Vicky%20and%20Samson


Re: Need Advice On Possibly Raising Relevante's Pergolide Dose

Lynn
 

Hi Tanna, 
To answer your question..
Is it possible that Z might have been a little "different" with Relevante and he might be a little wary of the halter? 

Our full time caregiver and the Sunday/Monday gal are two of the sweetest, most patient, kind people I know. I'm the only one who halters Relevante and takes him out of his stall. When they feed or give meds they just step into the stall doorway and hand feed the meds/treats before breakfast hay/Stabul 1/supplements. So I'm not sure why Relevante has suddenly decided he doesn't want meds from the girls but will take it great from Z (who is also a very kind, gentle young man). 

This summer i have noticed that Relevante has decided he doesn't like his fly spray - also even though he's been unable to exercise,/ride I've tried to keep up on learning. Someone brought a plastic chair into the aisle way - he acted scared ...so i worked with him on getting comfortable with the chair. When the barn owner brought in a big package of insulation wrapped in white plastic - he was concerned about that so I got the plastic wrap and worked with him on that - even spread it on the floor and got him to walk on it. I've tried to mix up by not making every session a "teaching" one. He's pretty good on manners but if he tries to rush me into his stall because his food is there I take him right back out and ask him to walk nicely with no pushing. Apparently I've become the "mean Mom" and he's avoiding me by not letting me catch him.

On the testing - i agree with you. It's the first time my vet has been resistant to something i wanted to do. But Cornell backed him up so I'll test at the beginning of November and in the meantime order some Prascend to have on hand.  I'm going back out there this morning.

--
Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
Relevante Case History
Relevante Photo Album

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