Re: Trim opinions Lavinia?
Lavinia Fiscaletti
Hi Bobbie,
Both toes really need to come back more. Hind toes likely need to come back as well but no specific pix available to be certain. LF heel height looks OK, RF - depends on what the alignment looks like. Might be able to lower them a little bit, but not much. A number of the pictures aren't labeled so I can't tell which foot is in the photo - sorry. -- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR
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Re: feed question post laminitis
Sherry Morse
Hi Cherie, Did she run insulin and glucose as well as ACTH? From your description it's more likely that Lexi is IR and for that having her diet as tight as possible is going to be key as well as getting her trim in order.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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Re: Feed recommendations please
Sherry Morse
Hi Allison, Hopefully Dr. Kellon can address the flax issue but the hay issue may be as simple as it's not palatable to him. Stemmy hay is often a sign that the NDF or ADF in the hay is high and that means that horses just won't want to eat it.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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Re: Flyte under the weather
Lavinia Fiscaletti
I can't open Flyte's case history either.
-- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR
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Re: Target's trim
So,Kathie, just to be clear, the trimmer you have now is not the same one as the one who did your work in March ? ( sorry , Lyme brain )
-- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Re: Target's trim
KATHIE DORVAL <bokayarabians@...>
Yes I now have a new farrier who is trying to fix the mess the trimmer made in 2019. Target had no foot to work with and we have been waiting for hoof to grow. The Sept rads were taken both before the trim and after. I might have only been able to send one or the other. I will check to see which ones were uploaded
-- Kathie with Libby and Sweet P Cobble Hill, BC, Canada Aug 2018 Case Histories Target Photos Sweet P Photos Addy Photos Cherokee Photos
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Re: Jesse labs
Two thoughts for consideration –
It may be wishful thinking that his PPID will still be controlled by 20 mg of pergolide. If he’s doing well on the present protocol, I’d be hesitant to change, other than fine tuning. -- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: Flyte under the weather
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Re: Flyte under the weather
Lecia Martin
Does my hay analysis and blood work file open?
-- Lecia Flyte and Flame Alberta, Canada
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Re: Flyte under the weather
Lecia Martin
Hi Martha, I just went in and it shows pdf file and I could open it. Beyond that I'm not sure what to do. I am techno challenged to be sure.
-- Lecia Flyte and Flame Alberta, Canada
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Re: Target's trim
Helen Connor
Kathie,
I'm sorry, but I forget if you are giving Target Jiaogulan (J-Herb) for improved circulation in her hooves? -- Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID) Scappoose, OR Member since May 2017 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Helen%20and%20Blessing Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=6847
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Re: Flyte under the weather
Hi Lecia,
I cannot open Flyte’s Case History. Are you able to open it? If so, what program does it open in? You’ve labeled it as though it is a pdf file but for me it tries unsuccessfully to open in Word. Could you please take a look and see if it’s actually a pdf you tried to upload? Flame’s opens fine. -- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Flyte under the weather
Lecia Martin
Hi all, I am looking for guidance regarding diet. Flyte has been out of sorts since early August. Case history is up to date, have posted hay analysis and most recent bloodwork. He has been steadily losing weight, and has had intermittent diarrhea for almost a month. His appetite is good, always has been a voracious eater. He is sound. But I am concerned and am wondering which way to go now. He has been thru 6 tubes of Biosponge, I recently, in the last 3 days added 1 lb dry weight beet pulp to his hay cubes to see if that would help. Could someone take a look at his file and tell me if anything jumps out. Vet is thinking leaky gut, I am still waiting for fecal analysis. I would think that if it is my hay, then Flame would be in the same way, but he is doing fine. My thoughts are to stop everything, and start from scratch. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated. Thank you.
-- Lecia Flyte and Flame Alberta, Canada
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Re: Pergolide, veil and APF
Thanks Dr Kellon, i will titrate back up when I get him past this little hiccup.
-- Nancy and Vinnie and Summer Oakley, Ca Joined Nov 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855 Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie/Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=249104
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Re: Timing of Repeat Bloodwork After Starting Metformin
I suggest a week. If it's going to work (doesn't always) you will have peak effect by then. No point continuing it if it isn't having a satisfactory effect. Some have reported insulins going down over a longer time frame but it's more likely that was from other changes made, not the metformin.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: feed question post laminitis
Cherie Bandrowski
The vet did an ADTH test it came out 39. She had a trim on Tuesday and I was going to take pictures to post but didn't have time before I had to be at work. I am hoping to be there tomorrow and take pictures to post.
Cherie Bandrowski in SE Michigan 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cherie%20and%20Lexi https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=254084
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Jesse labs
Jesse's labs have improved.. , after 3 cycles of cabergoline at 2.5ml q 10 days. ( will post to ch) Labs were taken at day 6 of the 10 day interval.
acth 55.0 9-35 insulin 36.88 10-40 glucose 96 71-122 High nitrates still show.. though I think??? the color change has been less of a dramatic shift?? So, what to do next? Paying $10 a day for 2.5ml q 10 is high.. also, some appetite veil, not a large issue,, and some reluctance to being injected. also not a large issue. I can return to 20 mg cp at aprox half the cost and hopefully eliminate the veil and injection displeasure. I have 2.0ml remaining.. I was considering to use the 2.0 ml at day 10 and start 20 mg cp , how many days after I give the 2.0ml? ( will use apf for several days) I can also use 2.5ml /q10 days forever... but dont want to.. current thoughts /options based on these labs? thanks.. Jesse is very happy and engaged and well clipped with this summer heat. -- LJ Friedman Nov 2014 Vista, Northern San Diego, CA Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History
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Re: Timing of Repeat Bloodwork After Starting Metformin
Hi Kelly,
Here’s a link to a write up addressing the most frequently asked questions about metformin. It suggests retesting 1 week after starting metformin. -- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: Toe dragging
Cindy Giovanetti
Thank you for commenting, Lavinia. Since we last talked, I have parted ways with my long-time farrier (over this) and have a new trimmer who is onboard with the ECIR protocols. She’s only been out once, and plans to trim on a 4-week schedule.
But the toes are already squaring again. I watched today and could see him dragging.
I’ll talk to her (new trimmer) about underrun heels.
Thanks again.
Cindy -- Cindy, Oden, and Eeyore, North Texas On ECIR protocol since 2/19 https://www.facebook.com/LifeWithOden/ History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cindy%20and%20Oden Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=91125
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Re: Most Effective Timing on Administering Prascend Dose
Splitting the dose to accommodate a short half life doesn’t make any sense to me. If the effectiveness of the drug is directly related to the concentration of pergolide in the blood, it would only serve to divide the dose in half. If it weren’t directly related, which is the more likely case, the short half life of pergolide becomes less relevant.
-- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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