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Re: uckele custom supplements and free bslancing??
Just for a little history, Uckele has been supportive of this group since the very early days. They were the first to offer custom supplementation - not because it made money (it doesn't) but because it was needed - and have consistently worked to meet the needs of horses with metabolic issues, dating back to before the time when most vets even acknowledged that IR/EMS existed. There is a section of their web site devoted to listing products safe to use for horses with metabolic issues. Their dedication and integrity is why I joined them after almost 2 decades with an equine "consumer affairs" type publication. Off soapbox.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: testing pellets
Ontario Dehy Timothy pellets.
Just timothy, no minerals or beet pulp. I just mentioned them in case budget is of concern,because they are less expensive than the ODTBC. Not sure how they compare in price to what you have been feeding. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Re: testing pellets
When I feed Timothy hayvand Timothy pellets I do use the custom supplement for the complete amount of hay and pellets he is eating for the day.
-- LJ Friedman Nov 2014 Vista, Northern San Diego, CA Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History
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Re: testing pellets
thank you for your question. There was a time when Majestic was leaving over 20 to 25% of the Timothy hay because it was so so quality so I added the pellets to make up for that. I’ve always used 4 pounds of pellets to mix the supplements in and additional 6 pounds was to offset the hay he was leaving over. Now that he has improved because the mixing Orchard with the Timothy, but he still gets those pellets and his weight is fine.
-- LJ Friedman Nov 2014 Vista, Northern San Diego, CA Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History
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Re: uckele custom supplements and free bslancing??
Any ECIR member interested in the free balancing should contact me directly at kellon "at" uckele.com.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: uckele custom supplements and free bslancing??
Balancing for ECIR members who use Uckele supplements is by me, and is for free. Again, you are incorrect.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: vit e,
Caroline
I use Equimins vitamin E oil, it works out way cheaper than the human capsules - although they are clean and convenient. I mix 20g into 10 days worth of linseed then it's easy to dose accurately - otherwise it's very sticky and almost impossible to measure accurately!
Progressive Earth and Forage plus do vit E in silica - easy t dose but you'd need to add oil -- Caroline Spalding, Lincolnshire, UK September 2019 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Caroline%20and%20Evan https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=231916
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Re: testing pellets
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High Iron
Help! For the first time I have to deal with hay that tested 701ppm, or 318 mg/lb.
I put a request for Dr. Kellon to help balance my hay. This hay came from same field as 1st cut. That came in at 70ppm. It is a lot more dusty and dirty so I am hoping shaking and rinsing will help. I am going to call equi lab for a retest, as my samples did not contain dirt. Any suggestions will be appreciated. -- Lori Able & Bodie 2016
Redding,CA https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Lori%20and%20Able%20-%20Bodie%20-%20Dusty https://ecir.groups.io/g/
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Re: testing pellets
The hays and beet pulp going into ODTB cubes are always below 10% - usually well below.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: testing pellets
The amount of custom supplement you feed should be linked to how much hay he is eating. If you are feeding 10 lbs of timothy pellets, those should be balanced to their analysis as well or his diet is not balanced.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Re: Mad Barn Amino Trace side effects
Rhonda Turley
My Scooter has been on the AminoTrace+ since June 10, 2020. I also have him on on Mad Barn Probiotic, Mad Barn Vitamin E, Ground flax seed, and salt. He is 14 now and I bought him as an unbroken 3 year old and he has always been in the same stall in the same barn. It is a large boarding barn. He has always had a problem with soft stools and a touch of gas when the weather changes. I have had him on a probiotic since he was 3 years old. I did note that when i went to look at him at his breeders, his tail had lots of dried poop stuck to it so he may have this problem since before i bought him. I have not seen any side effects from any of the Mad Barn products so far. Getting him to eat his supplements and Prascend, has been challenging for the barn staff in the beginning but we have worked out a system that works.
-- Rhonda Turley Brampton, Ontario April 2020 Scooter and Rhonda
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Re: testing pellets
Lavinia Fiscaletti
Why does Majestic need 10lbs of timothy pellets per day in addition to his hay?
-- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR
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Re: od balance cubes
Sorry for the typos again.. OD* balance cubes ...it is the only thing Vinnie will *eat
-- Nancy and Vinnie and Summer Oakley, Ca Joined Nov 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855 Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie/Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=249104
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Re: testing pellets
ODT = Ontario Dehy Timothy pellets. These are not mineral balanced, just another source of a plain timothy hay pellet.
-- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR
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Re: uckele custom supplements and free bslancing??
LJ, last I knew Dr. Kellon will balance hay free of charge for those ECIR group members using Uckele products to balance. Hopefully, she will correct me if I’m wrong on this.
-- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: od balance cubes
Vinnie loves the OB balance cubes..it is the one thing he will wat his supplements in during this darn veil :)
-- Nancy and Vinnie and Summer Oakley, Ca Joined Nov 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855 Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie/Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=249104
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Re: testing pellets
odt pellet? what is that? thanks
-- LJ Friedman Nov 2014 Vista, Northern San Diego, CA Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History
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Re: testing pellets
help me with your reply that the OD cubes would be better for both horses. If I were to switch Majestic over from Timothy pellets to the OD cubes, how would I balance his Timothy hay? Now, I mix his custom supplements in withthe Timothy pellets. And those custom supplements do cost three dollars a day. It makes financial sense to consider a switch over for a Jesse because I won’t need A custom supplement, but I will still have to add a custom supplement to the OD cubes for Majestic and his Timothy hay. and majestic currently gets aprox 10 lbs of pellets per day in addition to the hay
-- LJ Friedman Nov 2014 Vista, Northern San Diego, CA Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History
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Re: testing pellets
What about ODT pellets?
They are not guaranteed to be under 10% ESC+ Starch, but generally are. Aurelio? Hope I've got that right? -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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