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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

LJ Friedman
 

Just a reminder of my previous post. I got my product shipped in five days from price Pro pharmacy
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

There is also a Canadian option but maybe the delays on shipping make it not worth it?

Most people are using a Canadian based pharmacy which gets it down well below $200/month, e.g. http://www.globaldrugsdirect.com/DrugMoreInfo6983.aspx . There can be a 2 to 4+ week delay in receiving it.--Eleanor in PAwww.drkellon.comEC Owner 2001

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
Shaku's Case History  
Shaku's Photo Album   


Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

 

The Christmas photos of Relevant are exceptional, Lynn.  Thank you!
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Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

Martha and Logo


 
 


Re: Iron in Hay-What is considered High? Dry Matter 268ppm at 16lbs.

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Jennifer,

That is definitely higher than we like to see but below the upper safe cut off of 500 ppm established by the NRC.  The main thing with high iron like your hay is to ensure the other trace elements are in balance with it, especially if you have a metabolic horse.  This means your mineral supplement needs to account for the high iron by adding copper and zinc (and possibly manganese, unless it is also high).

Sometimes you can also lower iron by shaking (dirt should fall off, if that's part of the problem), +/- rinsing the hay if the high iron is from dirt.  However, some hays have high iron inherent to them due to growing conditions and this cannot be washed off.  I don't know if soaking, which we know removes sugars and some other elements like potassium, helps remove iron from within the hay structure or if it just washes surface iron off.  Soaking in high iron water for too long can ADD iron to the hay so maybe it goes both ways?

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
Shaku's Case History  
Shaku's Photo Album   


Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lynn
 

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions/input. I will search through my boxes, find my trimmer and get that done sometime this weekend while the trim is fresh. I will also try and take some photos so I can compare them post trim to those I'll take in 4 weeks for markups. Really appreciate everyone's time - especially considering it's Christmas Eve! I hope you all have a blessed holiday! I may get in trouble for this...LOL..but the boy wanted to say Merry Christmas too with a couple special photos I added to his album.
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
Relevante Case History
Relevante Photo Album

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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Thanks for that reminder, Cass. It is definitely helpful to be able to see the coronary band - and esp. the angle of the new growth coming in below it - clearly.

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Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR)
Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge
Jan 05, RI
Moderator ECIR


Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

 

Thanks, Bobbie.  It would make more sense to me if the nail polish were applied at the coronet band, which is where the new growth occurs.  Then you could follow as the mark moves down.  Perhaps that’s what was intended.
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Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

Martha and Logo


 
 


Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

 
Edited

Jennifer, I did some looking around and it seems as though Janssen Pharmaceuticals, a subgroup of Johnson and Johnson, manufactures the active ingredient, invokana.  Five years ago, they began making it in India, through their Indian branch.   I believe the same company also manufactures in Belgium.  This is a quote from a pharmaceutical briefing.  

“Janssen has launched its selective sodium glucose co-transporter 2 (SGLT2) inhibitor Invokana (canagliflozin) for type 2 diabetes in India – sticking with its "commitment" of offering India-specific pricing for its products as far as possible.”

It may be that there are other invokana suppliers - I really don’t know - but I would tend to go with this reasoning for why it might be less expensive to get it from an Indian supplier.
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Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

Martha and Logo


 
 


Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Bobbie Day
 

I read something the other day which makes total sense and not sure why it didn’t occur to me! Someone suggested after a fresh trim on a laminitic horse (frequent trim anyway) to mark the toe and heel if need be with nail polish and watch it, as soon as it moves up you’ll know when to trim. Is this just too simple to make sense?
I’m going to try it though, I guess it wouldn’t work for the rest of the hoof but it would be helpful to keep the toes back.
Merry Christmas everyone 🎁🌲⛄️


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Bobbie and Desi
NRC March 2020
Utah, Nov 2018

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Desi

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78821


Re: Antech document footnote re winter insulin levels

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Francis,

Dr. Kellon can address this better but yes, insulin levels do go up when the weather is colder.  This was actually just mentioned in a message the other day: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/259022.  It's also one of the reasons we recommend doing insulin testing when the temperature is 50 or above if possible and we ask for the air temperature to be reported along with the time of day of testing.  See this message from Nancy as an example of what can happen otherwise: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/246486




Re: EMERGENCY - Farriers

 

Anne,
Here are some names of experienced farriers. I met two of them at a clinic. They are all in the general Lansing area. Kim Powers has extensive experience with Laminitis.

Kim Powers (517) 581-9415
Amelia DiStefano (269) 876-8364
Janelle Wild (517) 294-0892

But if you need to correct that diet. Follow the emergency diet protocols!!!  
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Bonnie Snodgrass 07-2016

ECIR Group Primary Response 

White Cloud, Michigan, USA

Mouse Case History, Photo Album


Antech document footnote re winter insulin levels

Frances C.
 

In a footnote from Antech giving results of requested blood work is this statement:
"Evidence is mounting that insulin concentrations are affected by season with higher concentrations detected in December, January and February in the northern hemisphere, suggesting a winter-assocciated exacerbation of ID."
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- Frances C.
December 2017, Washington & California
Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Frances%20and%20Phoenix
Phoenix's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=12382


Re: uploading case history - begging for help

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Frances,

Step 1 - create a new CH folder by going to https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files
  • Click on the "+New" button at the top
  • Select the "New Folder" option
  • In the pop-up window name the new folder "Frances and Phoenix"
  • Click the blue "Add" button at the bottom right corner of that window
Step 2 - navigate to the new folder you just created.
  • I find the easiest way to do a search using the name of the folder "Frances and Phoenix"
  • Click on the folder in the search results to open it
Step 3 - upload your file
  • Click on the "+New" button once you are in your folder
  • Select "Upload File" from the drop down
  • In the pop up box click on the "Browse" button and navigate to the file you want to upload
    • We prefer if you upload the PDF so anybody can open it regardless of the device they're using
  • Once you have selected the appropriate file click the open button in that pop up window
    • That will bring you back to the file upload window
  • In the file upload window click blue "Add" button in the bottom right corner
If you have the files on your desktop you should be able to find them easily.  If you run into a problem please let us know where you're having an issue.

Thanks,
Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge)
EC Primary Response 
PA 2014
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet 



uploading case history - begging for help

Frances C.
 

Geez! Anticipating a $600 stimulus check  (bad mistake) I had the vet out to do a complete work up: ATCH, insulin, glucose. thyroid, CBC and panel and got the results in an email yesterday. So it was time to update phoenix case history form with all the new data. That is now done, Problem is I don't remember how to upload it. In my attempt I deleted my folder "frances and phoenix" (another bad mistake) On my windows desktop I have the new version as docx and also a pdf version which is what I was attempting to upload. When I try to upload CHROME gives me an available list from the desktop but does not include the case history documents
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- Frances C.
December 2017, Washington & California
Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Frances%20and%20Phoenix
Phoenix's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=12382


excell spreadsheet of online herbs etc. due to covid shortage in USA

Frances C.
 

I created a spreadsheet of online sources for common herbs etc that we use giving prices, amounts, shipping data. If any member would like a copy just "reply to sender" and I will forward it to you. I am finding that some things are hard to get.
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- Frances C.
December 2017, Washington & California
Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Frances%20and%20Phoenix
Phoenix's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=12382


Re: Mule with laminitis

Jennifer Murphy
 

Hi Renee, I have nothing to add except I'm a mule owner, too, and my mini mule is PPID/IR.  I've been following ECIR protocol for a few years now, and even my big mule who is healthy has benefited from this program.  You're definitely in the right place! 
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Jennifer in NH
2020

CH - https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jennifer%20and%20Flea

Photo album - https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=251041&p=Name,,,20,1,0,0


Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

Jennifer Murphy
 

When my vet and I first discussed Invokana, I had done a search here for pharmacies.  The link I sent her was shot down, because the drug was coming from India and she said you couldn't trust the medications that came from there, but is there any truth to that?  I think someone on here had posted a link to a Canadian pharmacy that she would be more comfortable ordering from, but it was a little more expensive.
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Jennifer in NH
2020

CH - https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jennifer%20and%20Flea

Photo album - https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=251041&p=Name,,,20,1,0,0


Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

LJ Friedman
 

I recently ordered from pricepropharmacy.com and went /  the cost was three dollars and the pills came from England, it arrived in California in less than six days
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 


Re: Steglatro trial

LJ Friedman
 

I can’t seem to find the study I read almost a year ago, but it showed that BI was testing  a two drug med   for laminitis,  and I think???  that Invokana wasnt included in the combo.
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 


Re: Steglatro trial

LJ Friedman
 

reminder: invokana costs $3.00-,300mg at Canadian pharmacies. I used to pay $2.00 each thru mexico at san diego border
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 

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