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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lynn
 

Well duh! That is certainly no doubt the most accurate way to chart growth! Thanks Lorna (love Mark Twain).
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lorna Cane
 

And anyway, may as well open my mouth again and remove all doubt( thanks Mark Twain) all one needs to do is measure from toe to coronary band,no mark needed.
The distances can be recorded to note hoof growth.
Or a few good lateral shots ,over time, will show the growth as well.

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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lorna Cane
 

Yes, of course !
Jeesh.

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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

LJ Friedman
 

Reference of the concerns from India, you can see the package s  are very well from the manufacture typically they’re made in Italy shipped to india. So I think there is zero worry about that  jansen, div of j&j
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lynn
 

Well  - when i trim the hair in the next few days...I'll put some nail polish in both spots for an empirical experiment and let you all know what actually happens. LOL
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Sherry Morse
 

The distance from the mark to the coronary band will be increased as the hoof grows out but I don't expect the mark would last a full trim cycle. 




Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

 

Please let me know if I’m misunderstanding.  If you paint around the hoof along the edge that hits the ground, when you check on it 5 weeks later, the mark will be in the same place, assuming it hasn’t been worn off.  What would be the difference you’d measure?
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Martha in Vermont
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July 2012 
 
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Re: MARE STILL HAVING PAIN ISSUES AFTER OVARIECTOMY

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Kelly,

I have a bunch of questions for you.  Did Mia have any of the issues you've noticed prior to surgery?  Have you discussed any of your observations with the UT Vets?  Have her insulin and glucose levels been checked since she's had the surgery?  What does her current trim look like?  Did she have any hind end issues prior to the surgery?  I did note that she had issues with her hind end while she was at UT and that makes me wonder if there might be related to what you've seen with her. The reluctance to go downhill could be related to trim, muscle weakness, pain, or saddle fit or even how the rider sits on the horse. Again this is something I would have asked the vets about.  I would also suggest testing her for Lyme, even if just to rule that out, as random spooking and 'odd lameness issues' can be a sign of Lyme.

After at least 3 months off I would expect that Mia would just be coming back into shape now.  For me that means she would just now be getting fit enough to do several hours of riding - even at a walk. I'm not surprised that she was tired and agitated after an 8 hour ride at this stage of the game.  Has she had any body work done or been checked by a chiropractor? 

Is she able to pee without an issue when not under saddle? 



Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lynn
 

Lorna - i didn't see your response...sorry for the duplication. Yes...I think you are right on both counts. From a practical standpoint ...since Relevante has a private paddock that is a dry lot it gets somewhat muddy this time of year so I think you are right about the potential for abrasion if the mark were placed at the toe.
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
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Relevante Photo Album

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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lynn
 

Hi Cindy - I think the idea regarding Bobbi's suggestion was that if you paint the toe and heel post trim...the mark would move up as the foot grew out over the next four weeks. Martha's suggestion was...
It would make more sense to me if the nail polish were applied at the coronet band, which is where the new growth occurs.  Then you could follow as the mark moves down.  Perhaps that’s what was intended.
An interesting experiment to try! 
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Lorna Cane
 

I'm thinking if polish is placed on toe(as opposed to coronary band) it would  move up as toe grows down (long). Yes ?
I'd worry about the mark disappearing ,just from abrasion from ground.

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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

Cindy Giovanetti
 

I don't understand. How could the mark move up?

Cindy

Someone suggested after a fresh trim on a laminitic horse
(frequent trim anyway) to mark the toe and heel if need be with nail polish
and watch it, as soon as it moves up you’ll know when to trim.


Re: Request from Dr Kellon for feedback on Riosa's blood - should I be concerned

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

This is the IR Calculator to use, if you haven't found it already:
https://www.ecirhorse.org/EMS-calculator.php

You can enter results in either units.  But I also like to convert the pmol/L (SI units) to uIU/mL to see what it is, as we are more familiar with seeing "Conventional units" because of the number of US members here and because Cornell uses the "conventional" system, too.  It puts the number into perspective, and allows me to more directly compare insulin to the numbers in published research and reported here by ouR members.

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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MARE STILL HAVING PAIN ISSUES AFTER OVARIECTOMY

Kelly Schwartz <kelly@...>
 
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Mia Had an Ovariectomy July 2, 2020 at the University of Tennessee Veterinary Medical Center. I started riding her in mid October. She seemed mildly lethargic, reluctant to travel downhill, peed frequently under saddle, once per hour, and only while under saddle.  A full pee stream, not the squirting mares in heat do.  On every ride she would spook from  behind like something was behind us, but nothing there, always swinging her hips to the right. I rode her a dozen times mostly at a walk for 2-4 hours. I noticed too, that her saddle pad was rubbing her hair over her croup and more so on the left side, as though she were hollowing out her back to avoid pain. After an 8 hour fast ride, she seemed tired and agitated and when we passed other horses near the end of the ride, she pinned her ears and spun around to kick at them, but did not kick. Closer to home she started crow hopping to the right going uphill.  December 4, 2020 I took her to Univ TN. Physical exam and ultrasound found nothing wrong. I had them extract the silicone marble they put in her uterus a year earlier and was advised not to ride her for 2 weeks and that it may take a month to see a change should the problem be due to the marble Also, I was told to try Regumate if problems persisted, or bring her back to evaluate for muscle or skeletal issues.   A week or so later, approaching her left flank in the her paddock touching it lightly she swished her tail angrily. I did it 3 times getting the same response.  December 22,2020, I rode her for 2 hours at a walk.  Still issues with reluctance to go downhill and not a lot of energy. She attempted to pee several times before she was able to pee successfully, and a lot of pee. It was as if it was uncomfortable for her to do the last butt tuck before peeing She spooked from behind again and carried her tail high and to the left as if in heat. When nearly home, she seemed distracted, wanted to bolt so I dismounted walking the last half mile. She did bolt and hop, then settled down for the rest of the walk. Today, 12/24/2020, I touched her left flank lightly with no reaction.

I’m so very disappointed and frustrated right now. She seems to have a pain issue internally in the left rear area. The marish issues seem to be part of it, and it’s similar but not as severe as experienced previously. I don’t have confidence at this point that UT Vet  Med Center can help. There’s a well regarded veterinary clinic in Shelbyville, TN, A Dr Bennett is one of the vets there. I just would like to know what is going on with Mia and what can be done about it, if anything. Would appreciate suggestions greatly!!

 

Kelly and Mia

Jamestown, TN

May 2018I

 

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kelly%20and%20Mia


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Kelly and Mia
Allardt,TN, USA
May 2018

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Re: uploading case history - begging for help

Maxine McArthur
 

Hi Frances
Sometimes I ‘lose’ a document when uploading too. Often I go back to my computer and save it again in a different folder. That seems to allow the system to find it. Not sure if this will work for you, but worth a try.
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Maxine and Indy (PPID) and Dangles (PPID)

Canberra, Australia 2010
ECIR Primary Response

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles 
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Re: Purina products

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

That actually looks like it supplies some decent minerals, Lorna, and the iron is lower than the other Purina products mentioned above, although it would be better if it was lower still.
https://madbarn.com/feeds/equilibrium-optimal-purina/
The carb analysis isn't awful either...in small amounts and diluted 50:50 with something like RSR beet pulp it could be considered reasonably safe.
https://madbarn.com/feeds/equilibrium-optimal-purina/

It might not work for horses sensitive to alfalfa though, just as a caution to anyone considering it.

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

TERRI JENNINGS
 

My vet was also a little concerned about the medication coming from India. However, we can tell that we have the true medication by urine testing. If your horse’s urine shows the highest level of glucose you know it’s the true medication. 

I often think of a 20/20 or dateline segment on fraudulent products being imported into different countries around the world. One of them was olive oil and they have people who all day taste olive oil to determine if it’s truly olive oil or just a substitute.  Sounds like a job I would not want. 
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Terri Jennings with Teeny, Finn and Elliott
Arcata, CA
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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

LJ Friedman
 

Just a reminder of my previous post. I got my product shipped in five days from price Pro pharmacy
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

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Re: Invokana side effects - how common are they?

Kirsten Rasmussen
 

There is also a Canadian option but maybe the delays on shipping make it not worth it?

Most people are using a Canadian based pharmacy which gets it down well below $200/month, e.g. http://www.globaldrugsdirect.com/DrugMoreInfo6983.aspx . There can be a 2 to 4+ week delay in receiving it.--Eleanor in PAwww.drkellon.comEC Owner 2001

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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Re: Relevante trim mark-ups

 

The Christmas photos of Relevant are exceptional, Lynn.  Thank you!
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Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

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