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Re: XRAYS/ LAVINIA

Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you sherry;  when my computer helper is available again  i will do. thanks, daisy
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0


Re: Allergies

Laura and Pabatsa in CA
 

Hi Denise,

My mare is doing the same thing, it's really hard trying to ride her when she starts sneezing and blowing in the middle of a canter. And it's particularly difficult when I'm in the show ring. Also, she is constantly wanting to stop and rub her nose. Yesterday I started giving her 2 tsp. of Spirulina in her morning ration that I bought from Mybesthorse.com. I'm not sure if that's the correct dose to give and when to increase it. I read that Jherb along with it can help but I'm not sure if I should give them together, anyway, I hope it works!

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Laura and Pabatsa in California
Feb 2012
Case History https://ecir.groups.io /g/CaseHistory/files/Laura%20a nd%20Pabatsa ( https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Laura%20and%20Pabatsa )
Pabatsa's Photos https://ecir.groups.io /g/CaseHistory/album?id=1740 ( https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1740 )


Request for feedback - New x-rays

lfitz66
 

May's photo album has been updated with her latest x-rays. I would love feedback. TY
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Leigh and May
Michigan
Joined 2020
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Leigh%20and%20May
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=260799


Re: New X-Rays for May #photo-notice

lfitz66
 


Re: Iodine Supplementation

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Sandy,

The 6 tbsp would be for all three 300 lb minis, not just one.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Allergies

highlandhillspaints@...
 

My Cushing's mare has seasonal allergies. She is constantly blowing her nose. No hives. What can I give  her that is safe?
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Denise Wa 2019


Re: New X-Rays for May #photo-notice

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Leigh,

You are much more likely to get feedback if you send a new message titled something like "Request for feedback - new x-rays".



Re: Iodine Supplementation

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Sandy,

The recommendation is 1 - 2 oz per day for a full sized horse.  If you have 1200lbs of minis you'd want to be on the high end of that for ALL of them.  3oz per day would be excessive for any horse that wasn't in heavy work and way too much for a mini.



Re: Dr. Kellon Re: Need Advice- Thyroid Tumor, Probable PPID

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Carissa,

If you do a TRH test the time to do it is now, not in September as there's no seasonally adjusted chart for post-TRH results during the seasonal rise.

As far as your other question, I'll leave that to Dr. Kellon.




Re: Vinnie Update with 37.5mg Invokana

Sherry Morse
 

I think he's looking absolutely fantastic Nancy!  I agree that maybe a bit more weight but I'd be really careful with not going too far the other way at this point.




Re: Urgently need help to board laminitic mare near Sacramento/Lincoln - boarding facility pressuring me to euthanize or being cruel

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Diane,




Re: Ground Flax addition to feed

Laura H
 

Thank you everybody so much, it makes sense now! :) 

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Laura Heit - Ontario 2021


New X-Rays for May #photo-notice

lfitz66
 

I just added May's latest X-Rays to my Photo Album. I would love any input/feedback. 
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Leigh and May
Michigan
Joined 2020
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Leigh%20and%20May
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=260799


Domperidone test for PPID

hdavis
 

Looking for feedback from anyone in Canada who has had this test done on their horses to see if they have PPID when the regular ACTH tests showed neg PPID.

what I am wondering is what the test all involves?  Does it require my vet to be on site for the whole day? I  assuming travelling with my horse to the vet won’t work either.  Just trying to figure out if I can get the test done as my vet had no time to be at my place for a full day to do testing. Ideas or thoughts from others?my vet only comes up to my area to see myself and another every so many months and usually is only at my place long enough to pull bloods snd xrays if needed.

thanks in advance!
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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


Storm

Case History


 




Fw: [ECIR] Diane Pingry

Sherry Morse
 

Forwarding for Diane Pingry

----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Diane Pingrey <dianehorsevol@...>
To: "main+owner@ecir.groups.io" <main+owner@ecir.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021, 12:41:36 AM EDT
Subject: Re: [ECIR] [ECIR] Case History Instructions

Hi Cass,

Super URGENT:  is there a person near the Sacramento/Lincoln area who understands ECIR horses, their chance of recovery and would be willing to have me board my horse at their property while I attempt to help her recover?  I can't trailer, so they would have to come trailer her, and I'd pay them for trailering and boarding.  I work 40 hours per week so can only see her in the evenings.  Denny is a mare in spite of her name.  She would have a hard time being able to trailer for more than 30 minutes at this point.

My biggest problem right now is that my horse is in SO much pain that the facility owners and others think I'm being cruel keeping her alive as no one believes it is possible to recover from that much pain, and I'm feeling pressure from them to euthanize her.  I too worry about her super high pain level but she is not showing me that she is ready in spite of her super high pain she is tolerating.  She kicks out her hinds legs in pain.  Very painful to walk and she is currently wearing wooden clog shoes that relieve pressure off of the coffin bone, but these clogs no longer help relieve the pain.  She needs a hoof trim by a farrier who is highly specialized and I feel like I'm going to run out of time before finding one.  The facility owner today said she was standing near her shelter and her front legs were trembling uncontrollably.  He said her legs were probably also really tired and that she was in tremendous pain.  She gets 2 Equioxx per day and that amount is not helping her at this point.  I asked him if he thought it was time to put her down and he hesitated and said "mmmmm no mmmm, not quite".  He said that he would tell me when he thought it was time, but I suspect he will tell me very soon to spare her of pain.  They think I'm being cruel keeping her alive and even though I mentioned the ecir.org group's work and what changes could help, they are dismissing it as a possibility.

As I've been slowly this week reducing her Purina Equine Senior sugary feed, her stance on her front legs looks less bent under at the knees compared to a couple of days ago.  She is still interested in eating and in being groomed and massaged and visiting with me and going out for short walks.  I don't see the "I'm done" look in her eyes in spite of her super high pain.  All of this pressure from others is making me second guess myself.

I have to board her, and I don't know where I can take her that would not pressure me to euthanize her, so I might not get a chance to see if she can recover.  And this pains me to no end.  

In the meantime, I'll try and get started on getting set up.
Diane and Denny



Re: Iodine Supplementation

Sandy
 

Chiming in on this conversation.  I recently ordered a 25-lb bag of Morton Iodized salt (had been using the small containers which go too fast).  So if I have 4 minis and I'm only sprinkling onto hay (they will not touch any food if I add any in there), and following the link provided to previous posts, I think I'm to use 3 oz or 6 Tbsp per 300 lb  horse per day? (this would be difficult to be perfect with since I'm putting on the hay as it's soaking but I don't want to overdo it so best guess?)
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Sandy Kemp
Northeast Pennsylvania
Crystal Blue PPID/IR
Tiffany PPID
2021
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sandy%20and%20Tiffany 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sandy%20and%20Crystal%20Blue


Re: Vinnie Update with 37.5mg Invokana

Joy V
 

Nancy, Vinnie looks great.  He's so cute.  How wonderful to see him doing so well, glad you shared that video!

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Joy and Willie (PPID/IR)
Nevada County, CA - 2019

Case history:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Joy%20and%20Willie
Willie's photo album:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=242526


Re: Urgently need help to board laminitic mare near Sacramento/Lincoln - boarding facility pressuring me to euthanize or being cruel

Lorna Cane
 

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 05:27 AM, Cindy Q wrote:
Put your mare on the emergency diet recommended by this group. It's under the header https://www.ecirhorse.org/DDT+E-diet.php .
Hi Diane,

Agree with Cindy for sure. Take your time.Read it slowly.
It can have amazing results , soon.
Senior feed definitely has to go,as you know.

I hope the barn is willing to at least help you try some of these initial measures.
https://www.ecirhorse.org/DDT+E-diet.php .

Read what to do in link above if you can't soak hay.
 
You'll get an official welcome soon,full of ideas which have worked for hundreds of horses.Try not to be overwhelmed .There's a lot there,and you have a lot on your plate.

Can you post pictures of her feet for Lavinia ?
Here's how...........
https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1472


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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
Check out FAQ : https://www.ecirhorse.org/FAQ.php


Re: Urgently need help to board laminitic mare near Sacramento/Lincoln - boarding facility pressuring me to euthanize or being cruel

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Diane,

Here is the live link to Denny's CH.....
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Diane%20and%20Denny

Add this to your signature.It should work.

Going back to read it now.

Hang in. Keep breathing. 
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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
Check out FAQ : https://www.ecirhorse.org/FAQ.php


Re: Urgently need help to board laminitic mare near Sacramento/Lincoln - boarding facility pressuring me to euthanize or being cruel

Cindy Q
 

Hi Dianne

1) I checked PHCP (Progressive Hoof Care Practitioners) directory and there's a practitioner in Sacramento called Jennifer Long. Her profile says she is accepting new clients: https://progressivehoofcare.org/directory/entry/580/ so you may want to contact her quickly to see if she can help you. As she seems to be local to you she may be able to suggest options for boarding even. 

2) You do not have to slowly reduce her senior feed, I saw your original post to the ECIR owners mail ​you are feeding Purina Equine Senior and you can just stop all of that at once. You will get a long welcome post with a lot of information and guidance on management and diet but you can go straight to this website for now: https://www.ecirhorse.org/DDT+E-diet.php and scroll halfway down. Put your mare on the emergency diet recommended by this group. It's under the header https://www.ecirhorse.org/DDT+E-diet.php . Details there including soaking your hay for 1 hour and draining it well. Grass hay only, no alfalfa. 

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Cindy and Glow - Sep 2017, Singapore
ECIR Primary Response




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