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Re: Magnesium
Denise Oliveri <Rockcd24@...>
-- Denise Oliveri Tiny Town Miniature Horses Higganum CT
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Re: Case History
Sherry Morse
Hi Deborah, You may have missed this email from Martha: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/266763 In a nutshell you are not registered on the CH group using your Yahoo email which is why you can't access anything. You need to log into the group using your gmail address and then you will be able to access your file.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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Re: Saraphina IR
-- Hi, thank you for getting my rads in order Lavinia.will do with the rads tomorrow I had a conversation with Phillip Himanka PHCP.He is coming to my place Saturday and will be looking at the rads tomorrow . per our conversation he told me Saraphina needs probiotics, her manure is dark and semi hard.He suggested I ask the group about California Trace minerals. Im assuming I need to get the Timothy hay compressed bales I buy from Standlee tested since they do not test for mineral values in their hay.Any leads/ links to buy these? Cyndi Carlson in Colorado 2021
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Re: Case History
Deborah Ide
Clicking on my case history link under my signature brings me to the case history main page that states: "This is the location for uploading case histories and photos of horses with, or are likely to have PPID/EMS, " but there is no button to click to go to case histories that I can see and I do not go to my horse's CH.
-- Deborah November 2012 Middle Tennessee Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deborah%20and%20Tara
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When to retest insulin?
Sharon Stokesbary
How much time is needed on soaked hay before retesting insulin? My vet thought 6 to 8 weeks. Is waiting that long going to make a difference? Rose's insulin was >200 on her initial screening on 9% sugar/starch and no pasture.
-- Sharon S (2009) Corvallis MT Rose Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sharon%20and%20Rose Rose Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=266006&p=Created,,,20,2,0,0
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Re: Saraphina IR
Hi Cyndi,
I corrected the dates and views on the rads in Saraphina's album. I also added the most recent rad of the RF. When the vet provides copies of the rads from tomorrow, please ask if they can provide ones without any mark-ups on them. That way, it makes it easier to show what the trim needs to do without trying to work around a lot of text, lines and numbers that are already on the images. It would be helpful if the coronary bands could be marked, along with the tip of the frog. Have read here for more of an explanation: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1571 Hang in there, although the trim needs a lot of work, it is fixable. -- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR
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Re: Blood work and discouraged Insulin remains high
Thanks again Dr. Kellon. I am actually going to pay the price and have her insulin redrawn at the end of the month. .....stay tuned.
Cheryl -- Cheryl and Jewel Oct 2018 Port Alberni BC Canada https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cheryl%20and%20Jewel https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=81063
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Re: Case History
Deborah,
The messages you’re sending in this thread are being sent from the account which is different from the case history one. I think this needs to get straightened out before it gets more complicated but I’m not sure the best way to do it. It may depend on how many posts you’ve made from each account. -- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: Apple as Pergolide carrier
Stacey Smith-Bohn
Since I use Prascend, I don't know how large the pergolide is, but when my old mare stopped taking the Prascend out of my hand I started sticking it in a large strawberry. It worked like a charm for her. I believe that in general berries are better choice for diabetic people than many other fruits so I assumed that it may be better for an IR horse than an apple??? The nice thing about strawberries is that it holds the pill inside very nicely and if she ate the berry I was confident she also ate her pills.
-- Stacey Smith-Bohn, New Jersey, 2021 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Stacey%20and%20Terry https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=261301
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Re: Case History
Hmm. It seems as though you registered into the Case History subgroup using this email address
but you belong to the main group with two different email addresses the above one as well as deborah_ide@... I’m wondering if perhaps you are using the wrong one to log into the subgroup? I did a fair amount of cutting and pasting here and my text changed character once I did that. I have no idea how this will post. -- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: Saraphina IR
Hi thank you Cindy,
I was just looking for his info. I sent him a message,praying he gets back with as I am getting rads tomorrow. -- Cyndi Carlson in Colorado 2021
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Too Thin and Weepy Eyes
Stacey Smith-Bohn
Since foundering in February we have come a long way with the support of this group. Last week we had the vet and farrier out for trim, X-rays and blood work. Both the vet and farrier were very positive about how Terry looks and moves. He is turned out on a dry lot a good part of the day and continues to wear his Clouds when outside of his stall because the ground is hard and his soles are still on the thin side but improving. He moves beautifully and is comfortable and sound, but not ready to be put to work just yet.
The vet's concern is that Terry is still on the thin side with ribs visible and hips still a bit pronounced, and winter just around the corner. I have gradually increased his hay (soaked 1st cut Timothy) up to 22 lbs. a day with no change in appearance but a happier horse the extra hay. I recently read on here that increasing protein could help him put some weight on and before this founder/laminitis he was of Purina Enrich Plus which about 3 years ago was increased to 6 cups a day to improve his topline, so the protein did help in that instance. If I wanted to try to increase his protein what would be a safe choice and manor to do so? I hope to have the results of his latest ACTH and Insulin/Glucose very soon. Also, this time of year Terry gets weepy eyed (which also started about 3 years ago) and my prior vet told me to give him 10 Zyrtec (Cetirizine) twice a day. Is this drug safe to use for PPID/IR horse? Thanks in advance for you help. -- Stacey Smith-Bohn, New Jersey, 2021 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Stacey%20and%20Terry https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=261301
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Magnesium
Is there a safe magnesium supplement I can feed my boy? I had heard magrestore was good but wanted to check.
-- J.Green MA, USA 2021 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Fergus%20Case%20History CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io | Album
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Re: Case History
Deborah Ide
OK, I am signed in. I see that I was signed in before but I tried logging out and back in again and I still cannot access the CH. I do not see anywhere showing that I am a member of the Case History group although I have updated her CH a number of times. I can get to the CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io page but no farther.-- Deborah November 2012 Middle Tennessee Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deborah%20and%20Tara
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Re: Saraphina IR
Hi Candice,
Thank you for your advise.I ordered the J-herb from my best horse.I just started pergolide yesterday.I am getting ready to contact PhilipHimanka.I am getting rads tomorrow can’t wait cause she can’t walk. I wish I could get this moving faster for my girl but we’re getting there.I also will get all my hoof pics at that time. -- Cyndi Carlson in Colorado 2021 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cyndi%20and%20Saraphina ( https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cyndi%20and%20Saraphina ) https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=266150 ( https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=266150 )
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Re: Apple as Pergolide carrier
Kathy Thomas
Hi, Candice,
It is hard to get Uckele products on Canada. Also, there is still the Covid issue. Not sure about Chewy. I have my doubts, but I will look into it. Thanks! -- Kathy 2017 and Donna Harrowsmith, Ontario https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kathy%20and%20Donna
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Re: Apple as Pergolide carrier
Kathy Thomas
Hi, Jean,
I have tried beeti bites. They were a success in the beginning , now she will not eat them. I have half a bag in the feed room. Maybe I will give them another try. Thanks! -- Kathy 2017 and Donna Harrowsmith, Ontario https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kathy%20and%20Donna
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Re: Case History
Deborah Ide
Maybe I am not signed in,m(I thought that I was) because clicking on the connection to Tara's CH in my signature does not open her CH and hay analysis. I will make sure that I am signed in and try again. -- Deborah November 2012 Middle Tennessee Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deborah%20and%20Tara
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Re: Case History
Deborah, what happens if you click on your case history link under your signature? This one below. Can you not access it from that?
-- Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
Martha and Logo
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Re: Blood work and discouraged Insulin remains high
Good question about the 4 days! As often happens, the answer is - not sure. Metabolic adaptations in muscle generally persist for about a month after exercise starts but the "glucose hunger" that muscle has after exercise, which does not require insulin, is gone by about 24 hours. I guess the answer is it might have had an effect but I don't know how much. I can tell you that when IR horses suddenly stop exercise they can become actively laminitic within 2 to 4 weeks.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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