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Re: Diet / Ration Balancing

a.k.a.petpalace2@...
 

Good afternoon,
What's the status of Apollo's ration balancing?  Sent my info to you at Uckele email address.  Haven't received any info and it's been almost a week. Will I be getting reply by email? 
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Karen B.
Wisconsin
2022
Apollo Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Karen%20and%20Apollo


Re: Hoof photo Problems

Sherry Morse
 

As he's a draft don't forget you'll want to use panyhose or a leg wrap to pick the feathers up so the entire hoof is visible as well.




Re: Hoof photo Problems

a.k.a.petpalace2@...
 

We'll try again.  Don't have his cannon bone in dorsal or lateral views, just fetlock.  Will wash and dry soles to see if can remove all hoof powder and see if that helps clarity of sole views.
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Karen B.
Wisconsin
2022
Apollo Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Karen%20and%20Apollo


Re: Laminitis Spike

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

You can start both with the banamine and do a quick taper - 2/3 dose for one day, 1/3 dose for one day, then off.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Laminitis Spike

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Robin,

Short answer - you can change from the NSAID to DQ without finishing a taper as per this information from Dr. Kellon




Re: Flax

Sherry Morse
 

Doing a search of the message archives using "Flax+Oil" brings this up: Re: Flax amount question (groups.io)




Re: Laminitis Spike

Robin
 

Good Afternoon Dr. Kellon,

I received my order of LaminOX and Phyto-Quench+DC today. However, my mini is still on 3 g Banamine 2x daily. In the process of tapering. Do I need to wait until he's fully off Banamine before I can start the LaminOX and Phyto-Quench+DC?
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Robin

Aiken, SC 2022

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Robin%20and%20Hogan  
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=275012


Re: Avrio Pharmacy

Megan Vogel
 

I live in MD and was having them shipped to my mom in VA. My vet is in WV. I don’t have anyone else reliable to send it on every month.

Megan
Member since 2003


Flax

Angie
 

I currently feed 1/2 cup ground flax seed twice a day.  I am thinking of switching to flax oil.
Any comments or suggestions?  Does anyone know the amount equivalent to 1 cup of ground flax?
--
Angie
October 2020, Mendocino County, CA

Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Angie%20and%20Jacob
Jacob's Photo Album:

 


Re: Avrio Pharmacy

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Megan,

The main issue with WW was the medimelts, not their compounded capsules so while they may be more expensive that would be an option for you.




Re: 31 yr old mare newly diagnosed PPID/IR

Sherry Morse
 




Re: We lost Alley...

 

So sorry Annette, from the bottom of my heart.
--
Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012
ECIR Group Moderator
Cayuse and Diamond Case History Folder                
Cayuse Photos                Diamond Photos


Re: Avrio Pharmacy

Erica Reimers <Ereimers90@...>
 

Would you be able to have them shipped a family member in a state close to you that they are licensed in? 


On Mon, May 16, 2022, 1:24 PM Megan Vogel <Twincreekmorgans@...> wrote:

Avrio called this afternoon and said their certification for Virginia had expired and they could no longer ship to me. They were never certified for MD or WV, I can’t use addresses there as a compromise. Avrio was Pethealth Pharmacy and I have used them for almost 20 yrs for compounded pergolide, and I’m at a loss as to where to go. Wedge wood is expensive and correct me if I’m out of date but I though they had quality issues for their compounded pergolide. 


So the question is where do I go now. Devan is on a 2.5 mg prescription. My vet normally uses Wedgewood, they only use Pethealth/Avrio for me.

Thank you,
Megan
member since 2003.


--
Erica H CA 2021


Avrio Pharmacy

Megan Vogel
 

Avrio called this afternoon and said their certification for Virginia had expired and they could no longer ship to me. They were never certified for MD or WV, I can’t use addresses there as a compromise. Avrio was Pethealth Pharmacy and I have used them for almost 20 yrs for compounded pergolide, and I’m at a loss as to where to go. Wedge wood is expensive and correct me if I’m out of date but I though they had quality issues for their compounded pergolide. 


So the question is where do I go now. Devan is on a 2.5 mg prescription. My vet normally uses Wedgewood, they only use Pethealth/Avrio for me.

Thank you,
Megan
member since 2003.


Re: 31 yr old mare newly diagnosed PPID/IR

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

She definitely needs pergolide; should have gone on it after the first test. Since she is a QH, there's a good chance her insulin resistance is coming from the PPID so if you want to try pergolide and tight diet  first before adding metformin that's reasonable but access to grass has to go.

Also, our study is almost filled but if you would want to start her on pergolide now (at least 1 mg) and retest her on or before June 30 we will reimburse you $300 toward the cost of the retest. Send me a mail at drkellon "at" gmail.com if you are interested.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Hoof photo Problems

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Karen,

Without seeing the pictures we can't tell you if the pictures are useful at all or not.  What we CAN tell you is that we are ALL guilty of thinking hooves look better in person than they do on film and while there is some interpreation from 2D to 3D if they look more flared in the photos than you think they are in real life - the odds are they are more flared than you realize.  As long as the pictures are as clear as possible, taken with the camera on the ground and include the cannon bone they're probably fine.  




Hoof photo Problems

a.k.a.petpalace2@...
 

Followed ECIR instructions. Used digital camera . Biggest problem:  dorsal views seems to distort true shape of hooves i.e. look very flared out on photos, much more than in real life (especially RFH).  Tried using cell phone camera but looked same.   Other issues:  1.  Sole view:  taken after cleaning surface with brush but small amount of remaining hoof powder seemed to affect quality.  2. Sole Plane 1 view:  seemed to be too much detail, (like under a microscope) probably too close or maybe camera setting issue.  

Do you want to see current photos or just retake?  Don't want to waste moderators time looking at something that's not helpful.
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Karen B.
Wisconsin
2022
Apollo Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Karen%20and%20Apollo


Re: Question - laminitis or too much trim?

Pat
 

I have uploaded hoof shots from yesterday. I forgot to do the sole shot, I don't know why, getting older and forgetful I guess.  I have been trying to use my hoof armour but it is not absorbing correctly (I know the instructions and am doing my best), so that is why there is a bit of flaky stuff on the sole, it is hoof armour plus talcum powder. I removed it where I could.
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Pat
August 2020
Metro Vancouver BC Canada
Case: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Willow
Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=253325


Re: Question - laminitis or too much trim?

Pat
 
Edited

Thanks for your thoughts! Yes she has always been fed in small hole hay nets - as long as I have had her which is 3 years. She is actually a much calmer eater than she used to be now that she gets enough tested hay weighed to an appropriate amount each day. Her weight management before I bought her was lots of exercise as a trail horse and very light feeding of non-tested hay, so for a while she still worried a lot about starving.  She was still overweight during the first test (about 1.5 years ago), had only been on tested hay for two weeks. I am looking forward to seeing what the result is now that she is down 200 lbs and fit. I am having her put out in the arena for turnout now. I think she would be frustrated to be out in a pasture and spend her time there being unable to eat. I know she would keep trying to get grass. She might get the muzzle off which would be a disaster.  
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Pat
August 2020
Metro Vancouver BC Canada
Case: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Willow
Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=253325


Re: We lost Alley...

Kim Rice
 

Annette,  I am so sorry you lost your girl.  I know how you feel as I lost my heart horse of 20 years in 2019.  I am so glad you two got in some good rides for you both to remember. 
--
Kim R, Lafayette, CA  2019
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kim%20and%20Shomee

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