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Re: Insulin under control, but now significant remodeling of the spine

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I would be very surprised if PRP made any difference when you have extensive remodeling. A conservative approach would be liberal application of Sore No More at least twice a day.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

a.k.a.petpalace2@...
 

There isn't any problem buying Jiaogulan from madbarn.com is there?  Haven't seen anyone mention it as a source.  I bought mine there.   Cost is $40 for 1 kg which is 2.2 lbs and price includes free shipping.
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Karen B.
Wisconsin
2022
Apollo Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Karen%20and%20Apollo
Photo album:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=275817
 


Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

taskerudet
 

Hi Ani,

I purchase mine from Horsetech.com.  I'm sure others will chime in on their preferred providers.
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Ellen and Crackers
July 2011, Goldendale, WA
Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Ellen%20and%20Crackers
Crackers' Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=1645


Re: Insulin under control, but now significant remodeling of the spine

fullcirclefarmhorses@...
 

She did not think surgery would be a good option and I don’t think I’d want to put Ava through it.
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Heather W in WI 2022
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Ava
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=273564


Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

Lesley Fraser
 

I bought Jiaogulan from My Best Horse - you could try them. Their supplements are excellent quality, and they’re very helpful and friendly, too.



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Lesley and over the bridge Omar,
11-2012, Sutherland, UK

Omar - Case History


Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

eissagholian@...
 

Thank you. We are working on the trim. However, I just want to feed something help with the growth and blood circulation. 

What amount do I feed per day? 
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Ani in CA 2022

Case History: 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Ani%20and%20Diamond


Re: Treats for IR - laminitis- founder

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

The  Equi Treats are also safe https://uckele.com/horse/product-categories/horse-treats-and-snacks.html .
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Treats for IR - laminitis- founder

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Lori,

Stabul-1 (http://stabul1.com/stabul-treats/)makes treats that are safe as does Beet-E-Bites (https://beetebites.com/).  Also see our files:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/Treats%20for%20Horses




Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Try mybesthorse.com or herbalcom.com. However, Jiaogulan won't grown sole per se. It will grow hoof in general but the trim has to be correct.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Update on Isaac

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I agree Chewy is more reliable than TSC. If you are having trouble with your local TSC it's worth contacting Anderson Feed directly http://stabul1.com/stabul-1/ and apparently Mad Barn USA is also carrying it https://madbarn.com/feeds/stabul-1/ .
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Insulin under control, but now significant remodeling of the spine

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Did she mention surgery?
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Treats for IR - laminitis- founder

Lori Ricigliano
 

This may have been covered before - but I have a training barn & there are a few IR horses here - the clients & guests love to give an occasional treat - 
are there any commercial treats that are acceptable or what natural treats could be given? Carrots and apples are a no - correct ? I also have a metabolic horse on thyroid - what treats would be acceptable? 


thank you ! 
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Lori R in MN - 2022


Re: BOT flies - deworm again?

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I don't know about ethanol but hot soapy water will make them hatch. Bots won't show up on a fecal egg count. Fecals are also unreliable for tapeworms.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: Help for Mare following extreme over-trimming to sole

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Insulin should be retested within 3 to 7 days of starting metformin to see if it's working. If not, switch to an SGLT2 inhibitor. Wait no longer than 3 weeks to retest ACTH. We are already within the seasonal rise zone and perilously close to the peak rise so getting ACTH down well into a safe zone is critical.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Re: New Blood draw

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Kimberly,

Mouse's case history has disappeared.  Is he on Metformin at this point?  It's possible the right front issue could be an abscess or it could be the lack of sole on that foot. Current trim pictures could help us help you assess that.  You don't want to drop a horse to drop weight too fast so as long as Ryn is steadily losing, that's fine.  You can always increase his work time or the amount of work he's doing to help with that and/or decrease the amount of hay & concentrates he's taking in per day although you probably do not want to drop past 15lbs a day total. Since you originally had him as being at 1000lbs currently and an ideal weight of 900 you may need to update what his ideal should be and run numbers based on that. 




Re: Farrier for Northern MN /East ND -near fargo ND

Lori Ricigliano
 

Thank you so much 


On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Olivia <estey.olivia@...> wrote:

Her name is Amanda. I believe her Facebook is Bare Your Sole
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-Olivia
May 2021, Bemidji, Minnesota
Jiji's Case History
Photo Album

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Lori R in MN - 2022 


Re: Signs of IR

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

The main thing you are doing wrong is the pasture access. She can have about 30 minutes immediately after her longer trail rides but otherwise no pasture.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


New Blood draw

Kimberly
 

Just looking for advice on how long to wait to do another blood draw.  Our current plan is to draw blood on 7/6 which is 30 days from our last draw on 6/7.  Is this too soon to expect better insulin results?  In June Mouse's insulin had dropped to 116.75, Glucose 112 and Ryn's was 73.66, Glucose 110..  Mouse is still not in work as he is still lame on RF.  I am waiting to schedule a lameness with exam with Timothy Ober, hopefully soon.  I suspect at this point with stall rest, little movement, heartbar shoes, no pulses, that we have another issue with the RF that is possibly, not metabolically driven.  Ryn is losing weight and in regular work 5-6 days a week.  His weight loss is slow and still needs to drop about 100 lbs.  How quickly should he drop weight?  I do not want to go to fast, but it is really slow to come off.  He is getting 17 lbs of hay/concentrates a day.  Thanks for any input.  
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https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kimberly%20and%20Mouse
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=275222

Kimberly joined 7.17.2018 Virginia


Re: Farrier for Northern MN /East ND -near fargo ND

 

Her name is Amanda. I believe her Facebook is Bare Your Sole
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-Olivia
May 2021, Bemidji, Minnesota
Jiji's Case History
Photo Album


Re: JIAOGULAN POWDER

eissagholian@...
 

Hello everyone, 

Firstly, I would like to know where I can purchase Jiaogulan Powder from as Uckele is on backorder.

Second, how much do I feed and how often? 

I have an IR horse that we are working on growing her soles.  
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Ani in CA 2022

Case History: 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Ani%20and%20Diamond

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