>Not sure where my CH is anymore... https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHistory4/files/Rio/ Lornain Ontario,Canada ECIR Moderator 2002 *SeeWhat Works in

Beth, I spoke with someone from HayGain two years ago and was told it does not reduce s/s. I was tired of soaking hay (especially in the winter) and was looking for a better and easier way. I

Hi, Kerry. Here's a heads up on a question you didn't ask. Soaked hay can be a major source of iron in the diet if the horse eats a lot of hay. My analyzed soaked hay almost always has higher Fe than

Somewhere in the files is a "report" I did on steaming vs. soaking, especially how it affected s/s. I think it was Nancy who said there's not much change in major minerals, and that was also true. The

For all members reading - Please check the 2013 NO Laminitis! Proceeding by Dr Kellon on Endothelin-1 for more info in to what may be happening during endocrinopathic laminitis. The role of Fructan

I just wanted to double check everything I was reading- steaming hay does not lower the sugar and starch. Correct? Am currently soaking and was looking for a better solution. Thanks! Beth &

Hi Thank Dr Kellon, should i also re test for IR when i have him tested ACTH ? Then i wont worry about the hindend soreness,sounds like it will get better as his front feet also get better. He's a

....."Tofurky is iron overloaded. ...(cut)... the only way to attack it is by blood withdrawal."..... >>> Like an old-fashioned 'blood-letting'? What about leeches, does Uckele sell medical

The hay is grass with 50 percent timothy in it,and less then 10 percent alfalfa in it. Will have to call hay guy to find out on the testing,so don't want WSC + Starch?? Corrine & Jasper MN

The first thing I would do is make sure it isn't WSC + starch instead of ESC and if it is, get the test repeated. That sounds too high. What type of hay is it? Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com

There is no research linking grass fructan to laminitis. Naturally occurring pasture laminitis has never been connected to high fructan and grass fructan (levan) has never been given to horses and

Tofurky is iron overloaded. Important to keep your trace mineral ratios very tight. Otherwise, the only way to attack it is by blood withdrawal. Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com

I'm not sure what kind of testing you are talking about repeating post doxy but ACTH should probably wait for end July or into August to see how you are doing with the seasonal rise. Hind end

Hi So i got my hay delivered 34 1000 lb round bales,hay guy tested ESC + Starch it came back 22% hay guy called this morning. I plan on doing the 603 trainers test on hay here in the next week or

Is there anything about the latest fructane/sugar in grass researches in the files? I don't seem to be able to find anything. I am searching for links to researches about the fact it's not fructanes

Thanks Lavinia. I am a bonehead and could not do it myself. The instructions don't seem to work for me. This is what it says: Based on human studies and data from our group member's horses, we have

Hi group, In the ongoing work-up of my gelding's unexplained hyperinsulinemia, so far bloodwork is normal except for part of the KSU iron panel. Here are results for both of my IR horses, as both

Have written to our member Mary Lou about the online version. Will try to get the xls updated shortly but will not be until next week, unless one of the originators can do so before me. This is not

In the files is an Excel version. It is older ( a little less up to date) than the on line version for those that need numbers right now but are math challenged. Go here and look for GI Ratio

Hi Dee, Here is a link to the Diagnosis page of the ECIRHorse.org website. Scroll down to the portion on IR and the formulas are there - you can do the calculations manually to get the