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Re: Update on Riosa -
There's the potential for prolactin to be at the root of all of this. Prolactin is under the control of dopamine just like the pituitary intermediate lobe hormones. Yes, you could try pergolide. The
There's the potential for prolactin to be at the root of all of this. Prolactin is under the control of dopamine just like the pituitary intermediate lobe hormones. Yes, you could try pergolide. The
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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Nutrizyme by AgriGro
Has anyone had any experience with Nutrizyme by AgriGro used in PPID/IR horses? Our stable manager is proposing to add it to all the horses feed to aid in fly control
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Barbara B 03/2013
Sedona,
Has anyone had any experience with Nutrizyme by AgriGro used in PPID/IR horses? Our stable manager is proposing to add it to all the horses feed to aid in fly control
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Barbara B 03/2013
Sedona,
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
We have to be aware of claims like "heightened awareness". How on earth could anyone tell that? It sounds like being picky but building on an assumption like that could take us in the wrong direction
We have to be aware of claims like "heightened awareness". How on earth could anyone tell that? It sounds like being picky but building on an assumption like that could take us in the wrong direction
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#247352
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
I often wonder....although the word spooky probably isn't appropriate for my theory....if the behaviour described is more an indication of a horse who is feeling so much better,after a long time of
I often wonder....although the word spooky probably isn't appropriate for my theory....if the behaviour described is more an indication of a horse who is feeling so much better,after a long time of
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Lorna Cane
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Re: Update on Riosa -
Thanks Dr Kellon.
She is shifting her weight on all 4 now but don’t feel pulses.
What will the Chaste tree berry do for her? Help with the ovarian issues or the buildup of prolactin. Is she ah big
Thanks Dr Kellon.
She is shifting her weight on all 4 now but don’t feel pulses.
What will the Chaste tree berry do for her? Help with the ovarian issues or the buildup of prolactin. Is she ah big
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hdavis
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
Ah ok, thank you for clarifying. I did find a few articles that referenced 'hightened awareness' as a possible symptom but I wasn't sure if that translated to full on spooking.
Thanks,
Sherry and
Ah ok, thank you for clarifying. I did find a few articles that referenced 'hightened awareness' as a possible symptom but I wasn't sure if that translated to full on spooking.
Thanks,
Sherry and
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Sherry Morse
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
Andrea,
The easiest way to tell is to stop it for a few days if your vet agrees. The drug clears quickly.
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Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Owner 2001
Andrea,
The easiest way to tell is to stop it for a few days if your vet agrees. The drug clears quickly.
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Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Owner 2001
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#247348
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
Sherry,
Elevated ACTH/cortisol won't cause spookiness but you may be thinking about discussions of large pituitary grows pressing on the optic nerve and causing vision problems.
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Eleanor in PA
Sherry,
Elevated ACTH/cortisol won't cause spookiness but you may be thinking about discussions of large pituitary grows pressing on the optic nerve and causing vision problems.
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Eleanor in PA
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
Dr. Kellon,
Couldn't "spookiness" or "over-reactivity" also be an indication that ACTH is still too high? I of course can't put my hands on a specific article so suffice to say uncontrolled PPID >
Dr. Kellon,
Couldn't "spookiness" or "over-reactivity" also be an indication that ACTH is still too high? I of course can't put my hands on a specific article so suffice to say uncontrolled PPID >
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Sherry Morse
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
Yes, I had his eyes checked. Twice. By 2 different vets, once last March 2019 and at the end of Oct 2019 when he was "not quite right". Both times I was told his eyes were fine.
As for the difference
Yes, I had his eyes checked. Twice. By 2 different vets, once last March 2019 and at the end of Oct 2019 when he was "not quite right". Both times I was told his eyes were fine.
As for the difference
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Andrea Carr-Evans
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
I have had the same experience with my mare (19 this year). I have had her since she was a weanling and although she has always been high strung, she has never been spooky. She was somewhat quieter
I have had the same experience with my mare (19 this year). I have had her since she was a weanling and although she has always been high strung, she has never been spooky. She was somewhat quieter
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Re: Target's trim
Hi Kathie,
So sorry to hear Target has had another set-back.
If the farrier took off too much heel it could strain the DDFT, (deep digital flexor tendon), not the extensor tendon as that runs down the
Hi Kathie,
So sorry to hear Target has had another set-back.
If the farrier took off too much heel it could strain the DDFT, (deep digital flexor tendon), not the extensor tendon as that runs down the
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
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Re: Quick question regarding PPID scenario
Just one caveat here. If his calculator values are normal but he's not on pasture or grain when tested it would be wise to retest him about a week after getting pasture access to be sure he's doing
Just one caveat here. If his calculator values are normal but he's not on pasture or grain when tested it would be wise to retest him about a week after getting pasture access to be sure he's doing
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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Re: Is Spookiness pergolide side-effect?
It could be but unlikely to show up after 2 months. How is this different from what you described as "frenetic" and "crazed" last spring? Have you had his eyes checked?
Protein doesn't cause behavior
It could be but unlikely to show up after 2 months. How is this different from what you described as "frenetic" and "crazed" last spring? Have you had his eyes checked?
Protein doesn't cause behavior
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#247341
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Re: New Member - Cushings diagnosis and laminitis
Hi Diana,
I've added a couple of mark-ups to Prince's album:
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=242061
Biggest issue is that the toes are too long horizontally at ground level, pushing the
Hi Diana,
I've added a couple of mark-ups to Prince's album:
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=242061
Biggest issue is that the toes are too long horizontally at ground level, pushing the
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
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Re: Target's trim
Please don’t give up on Target it sounds like you are so close to the turning point. As someone more expert than I has already said, do get xrays and then get mark-ups done by Lavinia so that you
Please don’t give up on Target it sounds like you are so close to the turning point. As someone more expert than I has already said, do get xrays and then get mark-ups done by Lavinia so that you
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Glenys
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Re: Update on Riosa -
Definitely try stopping the estradiol. I can't explain how it could make her worse but it isn't helping. I'm wondering if there is prolactin overproduction? Prolactinoma could be her issue although
Definitely try stopping the estradiol. I can't explain how it could make her worse but it isn't helping. I'm wondering if there is prolactin overproduction? Prolactinoma could be her issue although
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#247338
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Re: Update on Riosa -
Hello,
ok so I gave her 6mg of estradiol this am. Before I gave her the estradiol she was walking good with boots and and even with boots off she walking around well. Her crest was down a bit as was
Hello,
ok so I gave her 6mg of estradiol this am. Before I gave her the estradiol she was walking good with boots and and even with boots off she walking around well. Her crest was down a bit as was
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hdavis
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Re: Progress Updates on Kevin the Mare
Hi Chuan,
Two other possibilities to add to Cass' observations.
Her RH is the one with the negative plane coffin bone, so that could be contributing to her looking like she is more "off" on the LF. If
Hi Chuan,
Two other possibilities to add to Cass' observations.
Her RH is the one with the negative plane coffin bone, so that could be contributing to her looking like she is more "off" on the LF. If
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
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#247336
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Re: Update on Riosa -
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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
Riosa Case History
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa
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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
Riosa Case History
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa
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hdavis
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#247335
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