Hello, I have a sample of new hay to test, but my preferred testing company lists their test as a combo NIR/wet Chemistry. Can someone tell me if it is acceptable? The second option has less info

Thank you, Dr. Kellon -- I appreciate it! Amy -- Amy & Baldur - Franklin, NY April 2022 Baldur's Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Amy%20and%20Baldur Baldur's Photos:

Mya's issues are also highly suspicious of PPID. Is you vet amenable to putting her on pergolide at least for the seasonal rise then testing her after that? -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com EC

Hi Cass, Reasonable period of time to wait for what? Why not turn her out alone? -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com EC Owner 2001

Lesley, You are not a nobody, but passion alone does not guarantee results. Many ideas that looked promising have failed to pan out in horses. One good example is chromium. Human diets are low in

What is a reasonable period of time to wait before a two hour trailer ride for a recovering laminitic horse with three post-laminitis trims and very light pulses? Assume the trim is competent and

It is readily available, I could buy 2500 lb of it today but that would be ridiculous for me as an individual. I have contacted the lead investigator of that study to see if studying this effect in IR

OK good! So the bloodwork at your next vet appointment will tell you if the 1 mg dose is adequate. I strongly suspect you will need to increase it and because the seasonal rise in ACTH has started

Hello Rose and welcome to the group! Your first post here signals your welcome message, it is full of great information which you will find very useful so please keep it handy and refer back to it as

Dr Kellon , I’ve owned mya for 8 years - she never had an episode of founder in that time - she was always “club footed funny” on her right front though ….. but a year an half ago in late

Check these links https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=hay+virginia . -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com EC Owner 2001

You may post whatever you like for discussion on questions. No rules about that! We do not use the testing cut offs because they are based on statistics and standard deviations to give predictions of

She is on her pergolide still. I never removed it. I can’t find hay here unless it’s a compressed bale from TSC I have been looking for hay for weeks. i did find some grass hay rolls --

Yes, no shipments have even been sent to my state. She’s checking the next state over and will call me back but we’re looking at hours and hours away. -- Kay @ K & J Ranch LLC VA, USA

I didn't see anything missing in your diet recommendations from Forage Plus. If you are going to be getting new hay soon, I'd wait until you've done so then see what her metabolic bloodwork shows

Oliver's breed and late in life onset of laminitis are highly suspicious of PPID. The same may be true for Mya but her genetics predispose her to EMS. How long have you had her? -- Eleanor in PA

Thank you Dr Kellon. I wanted to know if this group uses the information in the document, esp the testing cut offs, etc. If you do not use them I will not post them. Trying to be cognizant of the

Hi Kay, Could you buy some grass hay and soak it before feeding it? 1 hr in cold water or 30 min in hot water. I think that's better than taking a chance on pellets which cannot be soaked to remove

You probably could get away with that, but no guarantees. -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com EC Owner 2001

<Is soaking hay for 2 hours minimum satisfactory? Rebecca, soaking in plenty of cold water for one hour is enough to remove some sugars without depleting other nutrients too much. Particularly given