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Re: L-Carnitine- Alcar
ALCAR (acetyl-l-carnitine is a metabolite of L-carnitine. When you feed either one the body will do the interconversions to some extent but if you feed L-carnitine you will end up with more
ALCAR (acetyl-l-carnitine is a metabolite of L-carnitine. When you feed either one the body will do the interconversions to some extent but if you feed L-carnitine you will end up with more
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#286016
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Re: L-Carnitine- Alcar
OK, Shera. I am still learning too.
I believe L-Carnitine is recommended for Invokana horses where triglycerides are an issue. Your vet needs to be on board with Dr K.
Acytel_L-Carntine is most
OK, Shera. I am still learning too.
I believe L-Carnitine is recommended for Invokana horses where triglycerides are an issue. Your vet needs to be on board with Dr K.
Acytel_L-Carntine is most
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Nancy C
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#286015
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Re: Question about poo
Follow up questions please Dr Kellon, about feeding minerals at the same time.
Once the horse has adapted and fermentation takes place, it loses the ability to carry sand out. Can minerals be fed at
Follow up questions please Dr Kellon, about feeding minerals at the same time.
Once the horse has adapted and fermentation takes place, it loses the ability to carry sand out. Can minerals be fed at
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Nancy C
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#286014
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Re: Question about poo
You should feed psyllium wet, mixed into a meal. In humans it is a bulking/softening laxative but horses will adapt to it and eventually ferment it so it turns out to be a prebiotic. You still get
You should feed psyllium wet, mixed into a meal. In humans it is a bulking/softening laxative but horses will adapt to it and eventually ferment it so it turns out to be a prebiotic. You still get
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
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#286013
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Re: L-Carnitine- Alcar
Thanks, Nancy. I seem to recall Dr. Kellon distinguishing between the two for different purposes (maybe I have the names wrong?)
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Shera Felde, Central Oregon,
Thanks, Nancy. I seem to recall Dr. Kellon distinguishing between the two for different purposes (maybe I have the names wrong?)
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Shera Felde, Central Oregon,
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Shera Felde
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#286012
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Re: Question about poo
Hi Nancy,
I'd be curious to find out if it's simply the warm water that does the trick. It is appealing to horses in the cold weather,especially.
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Lorna in Eastern
Hi Nancy,
I'd be curious to find out if it's simply the warm water that does the trick. It is appealing to horses in the cold weather,especially.
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Lorna in Eastern
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Lorna Cane
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#286011
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Re: Question about poo
Hi Nancy- years ago, I was using that trick before I knew my horse( Dolly) was PPID/IR and she wouldn't drink the water, but she would blow bubbles into the water to get the grain to move to the
Hi Nancy- years ago, I was using that trick before I knew my horse( Dolly) was PPID/IR and she wouldn't drink the water, but she would blow bubbles into the water to get the grain to move to the
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Trisha DePietro
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#286010
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Re: Question about poo
Would it help to add or increase magnesium? Mine have had much better bowel movements (a bit softer) since I stated adding a heaping tbsp of mag oxide.
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Linda in Grass Valley, CA 2020 Midnight
Would it help to add or increase magnesium? Mine have had much better bowel movements (a bit softer) since I stated adding a heaping tbsp of mag oxide.
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Linda in Grass Valley, CA 2020 Midnight
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Starshine Ranch
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#286009
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Re: Question about poo
We have some horses at our boarding barn that are not metabolic but do not drink enough water and have occasional mild colics. For them we fill a 2 gallon bucket with warm water and add electrolytes
We have some horses at our boarding barn that are not metabolic but do not drink enough water and have occasional mild colics. For them we fill a 2 gallon bucket with warm water and add electrolytes
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Nancy & Dot
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#286008
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Re: L-Carnitine- Alcar
Hi Shera
While you are waiting for Dr Kellon, here's folder with several article on ALCAR. ALCAR is acetyl-L-carnitine.
https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/Acetyl-L-Carnitine
More in the archives
Hi Shera
While you are waiting for Dr Kellon, here's folder with several article on ALCAR. ALCAR is acetyl-L-carnitine.
https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/Acetyl-L-Carnitine
More in the archives
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Nancy C
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#286007
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Re: Question about poo
Hi Jessica. How does your horse get water? Is there anyway you can measure his intake for a few days? Baseline calculation for water intake is 30-35 ml/ kg of body weight for maintanence ..so
Hi Jessica. How does your horse get water? Is there anyway you can measure his intake for a few days? Baseline calculation for water intake is 30-35 ml/ kg of body weight for maintanence ..so
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Trisha DePietro
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#286006
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Re: Question about poo
Hi Jessica
I would discuss why your vet recommended psyllium, and is there concern of sand accumulation and/or sand colic.
If you've not done a treatment in some time, I would be inclined to do that.
Hi Jessica
I would discuss why your vet recommended psyllium, and is there concern of sand accumulation and/or sand colic.
If you've not done a treatment in some time, I would be inclined to do that.
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Nancy C
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#286005
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Re: L-Carnitine- Alcar
Dr. Kellon,
Would you please explain the difference (use and effect) of acetyl L carnitine and L carnitine (alcar?)?
thank you,
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Shera Felde, Central Oregon,
Dr. Kellon,
Would you please explain the difference (use and effect) of acetyl L carnitine and L carnitine (alcar?)?
thank you,
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Shera Felde, Central Oregon,
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Shera Felde
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#286004
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Re: Question about poo
Hi Lesley,
He is being fed salt as well as having it available free choice. I could start soaking his hay again, but he has this issue even when everything was soaked.
He is a big water drinker too,
Hi Lesley,
He is being fed salt as well as having it available free choice. I could start soaking his hay again, but he has this issue even when everything was soaked.
He is a big water drinker too,
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@Jjennings89
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#286003
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Re: Which Hay?
Hi, Carlye.
We really can’t offer much guidance because the type of testing done, NIR, is not accurate enough to say the mixed grass hay will be safe. Mixed grass alfalfa is not advised because
Hi, Carlye.
We really can’t offer much guidance because the type of testing done, NIR, is not accurate enough to say the mixed grass hay will be safe. Mixed grass alfalfa is not advised because
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Cass in NorCal
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#286002
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Re: Question about poo
Jessica,
Are you feeding salt, vs free choice salt? Feeding salt will increase water intake a bit.
Psyllium without adequate water intake can make constipation worse.
In my experience, horses may
Jessica,
Are you feeding salt, vs free choice salt? Feeding salt will increase water intake a bit.
Psyllium without adequate water intake can make constipation worse.
In my experience, horses may
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Lesley Bludworth
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#286001
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Question about poo
Hello friends!
Since changing my horse's diet and getting him off pasture, he's had smaller bowel movements, and the stool is harder. He seems to be having trouble going too. I asked my vet about it
Hello friends!
Since changing my horse's diet and getting him off pasture, he's had smaller bowel movements, and the stool is harder. He seems to be having trouble going too. I asked my vet about it
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@Jjennings89
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#286000
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Re: Which Hay?
As we don't recommend alfalfa for IR horses that limits your options. Do you have current test results for Jolene for IR or PPID? Has she been on alfalfa before without isues?
We also look at
As we don't recommend alfalfa for IR horses that limits your options. Do you have current test results for Jolene for IR or PPID? Has she been on alfalfa before without isues?
We also look at
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Sherry Morse
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#285999
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Re: Help for a rescue I don't seem to be able to correct
Case History and Photos are up. I put up some photos of each hoof I took today. Disclaimer: It is rainy and muddy so I rinsed off her feet but they look squishy and wet in the photos. They actually
Case History and Photos are up. I put up some photos of each hoof I took today. Disclaimer: It is rainy and muddy so I rinsed off her feet but they look squishy and wet in the photos. They actually
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Lydia Lawson
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#285998
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Re: Invokana horses and Yucca
I was able to finally get Woody to eat the PQ with Devils claw by adding it to the stuff I’d gotten at the health food store which comes in capsules and he likes as much as he used to like the PQ
I was able to finally get Woody to eat the PQ with Devils claw by adding it to the stuff I’d gotten at the health food store which comes in capsules and he likes as much as he used to like the PQ
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Chris Hanson
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#285997
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