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Re: pergolide pharmacies

Lynn
 

Hi Daisy,
When I switched from Prascend to compounded pergolide my vet recommended Wedgewood. He has used them for years and finds them reputable as Nancy said. The pharmacist has worked well with my vet and I've also talked with him several times. I recently switched from the capsules to the Gourmed tablets which come in three flavors. As Bonnie said, they are huge..almost the size of a quarter. Relevante was NOT impressed with the apple molasses flavor so I'm going back to the small capsules. But they do also have something called a Medi-Melt tablet but I don't know how they work or how large they are. Since I board and my caregiver feeds Relevante his medication by hand to make sure he gets it, she feels the tiny capsules are much easier to administer and to hide in treats.
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
Relevante Case History
Relevante Photo Album

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Re: Bloodwork and possible error

Nancy C
 

Dr Kellon also goes into Laboratory Ranges in ECIR's film, Getting the Correct Diagnosis.

https://www.ecirhorse.org/video.php

Scroll down.
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Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
ECIR Group Inc. President/Treasurer  2019-2020
Join us at the 2020 NO Laminitis! Conference, October 22 - 25, Harrisburg, PA


Re: pergolide pharmacies

Nancy C
 

Wedgewood is very reputable.

Here is the link to their site.  You can call or email them.

https://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/

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Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
ECIR Group Inc. President/Treasurer  2019-2020
Join us at the 2020 NO Laminitis! Conference, October 22 - 25, Harrisburg, PA


Re: pergolide pharmacies

 

You should place a call to Wedgewood and ask what form their compounded tablets are available in. I use Wedgewood and I feel their website leaves a lot to be desired for customers. My vet's prescription was written for "tablets" even though I requested CAPSULES. The Wedgewood tablets are flavored chewable large tablets, not the tiny things like Prascend. Of course he won't just eat them. However, they dissolve easily and quickly in a little water. Then the barn manager pours that into his large dosing syringe and he sucks that down. It helps to use an actual dosing syringe and add a little something for flavor. You could add a little applesauce or even a little Cocosoya oil. Practice without the tablets until the horse accepts the dosing.
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Bonnie Snodgrass 07-2016

ECIR Group Primary Response 

White Cloud, Michigan, USA

Mouse Case History, Photo Album


Re: Urgent advice please. Think I overdosed Savannah with pergoloide.

Lorna Cane
 

Pat, I just realized that it does mention not shipping to Canada, on Uckele's site....but.....that is connected to their shipping price discount/free shipping deal. 

They do not ship to Canada , with their shipping price deals. We pay full price.

Maybe that's what you saw .

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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002


 


Re: dry skin rx for dry skin with ir horse

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

IR horses are prone to allergy. Excessive scaling can be seen in PPID horses and they also may develop allergies. Otherwise, it's like dandruff - a sign the skin is irritated. With a history of skin allergies/hypersensitivity in both horses, that's not surprising. Tight diet balancing along with biotin and vitamin A often corrects this - in addition to controlling the hormonal issues.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com  2 for 1 course sale
EC Owner 2001


Re: dry skin rx for dry skin with ir horse

 

Daisy,
Tiko's case history says he gets only one oz of "Omega Horseshine" per day in the winter. You could increase this quantity since he tolerated 3 oz per day in the summer. I didn't see Vit E listed in his case history. Vit E does need to be supplemented for horses not on green grass. 

Remember to search our "Files" area for info about feeding the IR or Cushings horse. You can also search the messages to find responses to similar questions posted by other members.

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/6%20Diet%20Balancing/Nutritional%20Needs%20for%20Insulin%20Resistant.pdf

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Bonnie Snodgrass 07-2016

ECIR Group Primary Response 

White Cloud, Michigan, USA

Mouse Case History, Photo Album


Re: Bloodwork and possible error

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

****LABORATORY RANGES ARE NOT NORMALS****


I'm not yelling! - just trying to get everyone's attention.  This comes up regularly.

"Normal" insulin depends on the circumstances. Would you expect a fasting horse to have the same insulin as one that just ate a full bucket of sweet feed?  The normals our calculator uses are based on ponies on pasture - so pretty generous for a full sized horse on low S/S hay.

Laboratories have reference ranges, not normal ranges. The usual procedure is to test animals that are externally free of any obvious diseases, various ages, breeds, sexes. How diverse the population is will depend on what is readily available to the lab - e.g. university donations. A minimum of 80 animals are supposed to be tested but that's not always done. Values that are extreme outliers - way above or below most of the results - are supposed to be discarded but that's not always done either. Results are then averaged and two standard deviations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRqtXL2WX2M applied to get the range.  For example, if the average was 50 and standard deviation 10, the range would be 30 to 70.  What the reference range really means is if you test your horse there's a good likelihood you will see a result in the reference range. That does not mean it's normal.It means it was common for the ages, breeds and diets included in their test population.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com  2 for 1 course sale
EC Owner 2001


Re: Urgent advice please. Think I overdosed Savannah with pergoloide.

Lorna Cane
 

Pat,ideal is to speak to someone at Uckele, and ask specific questions.

They do ship at least Cocosoya to Canada.

I used to use their vit/ min supplement,too, years ago,which an Ontario supplement company used to get from them.

They have an 800 number.

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Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002


 


Is anyone giving 3 Prascend?

MarionD
 

I guess I need to re-test my old guy that is current getting 2 Prascend.  I've noticed increased water intake.   I remember my vet telling me that 2 was the maxium prescribed.  Yet I remember researching it and found that in UK (I think) they give 3 or maybe more.   
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Marion D.
West Central New Jersey
Joined 7/10/19


Re: dry skin rx for dry skin with ir horse

Alison Parr <aparr@...>
 


--Hi Daisy,

I would be interested in replies to this too as my PPID Shetland has dreadful scurf in her mane throughout the year and from Spring onwards, I have to take preventative measures against sweet itch. 
Allie in Hampshire 2019


Re: 2nd request Metformin

LJ Friedman
 

if you do a search on this site. metformin.  it is often noted that its efficacy is temporary in nature.  
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LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 


Re: Relevante's Trim Delayed A Week - Will That Cause Damage?

Tanna
 

Hi Lynn! 

I think you will be perfectly fine waiting one more week if need be. 🙂 Not much will happen other than a tiny bit more growth showing mostly in the through the wall. When your farrier comes next week he will just take the extra bit off like a regular trim. 

I would have suggested asking your farrier if he has a spare rasp that you can use to round off the toe a touch between trims but I see that it doesn't work for your situation. For what it's worth, I usually have my horse on a 4 week schedule and this run I have to stretch to five. I won't even bother rasping because the difference will be so minimal.


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Tanna 

April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)
Langley, BC, Canada

Tula's Case History 


pergolide pharmacies

Daisy Shepherd
 

does any one have info on wedgewood compounding pharmacy?  pet health is much closer to me but they do capsules and liquid.; if i use these for my 31 year old ppid horse,  and he chooses not to eat his grain ( will not eat capsules and powder not  practical ) or only a portion of, then i do not know what  dose he ate; he is very difficult to do oral syringe dosing; so to make a long question shorter i really need pills ( similiar to prascend )  thank you daisy and tiko
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0


Re: Urgent advice please. Think I overdosed Savannah with pergoloide.

Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
 

Kirsten
I looked at your link. I’ll check it out tomorrow. 
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Pat and Savannah
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada
January 2018 

Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah
Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0


Re: Urgent advice please. Think I overdosed Savannah with pergoloide.

Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
 

Lorna, 
I contacted Ukuleles website tonight and asked them if they ship to Canada. Waiting for reply. Last time I tried to order from them it said “they do not ship to Canada. They did not specify only certain products. 
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Pat and Savannah
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada
January 2018 

Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah
Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0


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Re: 2nd request Metformin

Amy
 

Sorry.  I tried to tag my other post.  Didn't work.

My original question was does metformin work short term or long term?  It did work at the beginning,  will it be a life long thing or is there a point where it stops working and I take him off?  Do I wean him off or?
Thanks 
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- Amy 10-2016

Mooresville, Indiana 

Stormy, Case History, Photo Album

 


Re: 2nd request Metformin

Amy
 

Asking again.  Metformin has worked for my guy, but I'm wondering if it will continue?

Planning on new bloodwork in the near future.  I'd love for it to work, but starting to see a Cresty neck (slowly) again, even though diet is extremely tight and exercise is continuing.   

Thanks 
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- Amy 10-2016

Mooresville, Indiana 

Stormy, Case History, Photo Album

 


Relevante's Trim Delayed A Week - Will That Cause Damage?

Lynn
 

Relevante's trim (he is trimmed every 4 weeks) was scheduled for tomorrow but my farrier let me know he's been down for the count for the last couple weeks because he got kicked in the back of the head. I don't have the equipment, skills or time to do it myself. Juggling 2 jobs, and care of my 87-year-old Mom that just had inner ear surgery and my 89-year-old Dad that can't see very well or hear. I posted photos of Relevante's feet in his photo album that i took today. Some are dark and some aren't far enough away but i was sort of in a hurry because i didn't want to leave my Mom for too long so i apologize in advance. Will it cause any damage to his feet to wait another week which puts us at 5 weeks? We are still in the slow process of moving the heels back...I rode him Saturday through standing poles, around barrels and over ground poles at a walk then we gaited on the straight, long walls of the arena...he did great and today exhibited zero soreness of any kind. We're also working on shoulder in, shoulder out exercises from the ground right now for his topline. Thanks for any advice about what does or does not happen when a trim is delayed.
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Lynn
Beavercreek, Ohio
March 2018
Relevante Case History
Relevante Photo Album

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