He has been going about 5 weeks between trims.
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Alysoun M in PA 2022
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=275965 

I’m so sorry for your loss, Dawn.  I hope you will continue to implement what you learned from Tipperary in helping others here.  While he may be missing from your barn - and I know how that hurts - he will very much remain a part of our group.
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My horse licks the ground too when I clean out waterers with bleach.

I craved salt and ate lots of salty dill pickles when I was anemic. Lol!  Its called Pica in people.
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Chatycady in the Midwest 2022

Oh, I’m so sorry, Dawn. The loss of such a great friend is absolutely heartbreaking.
His family line lives on, as he does within you. Fly free, Tipperary.

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Lesley and over the bridge Omar,
11-2012, Sutherland, UK

Omar - Case History

Charlie's vet was out to check him yesterday for the 3rd time since his June 7 diagnosis, and assures me that he does not have WLD. 
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Alysoun M in PA 2022
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=275965 

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Donna Coughlin, Robin Goodfellow and Ariel Max; Duke (5/21) and Obi (5/17) over the Rainbow Bridge

CT 2009

 

 

Good Evening All,

We received Falki's blood work results yesterday. I haven't updated his case history yet. 

ACTH 5.1 (2-10) on 1 mg. compounded pergolide.
Glucose 5.7 (3.7-6.7)
Insulin >1435 (<300) Not a typo!

We purchased 1st cut grass hay last year which tested under 10% but not by much. Then we had a drought for the remainder of last season. We purchased more hay in early April 2022 (what we were told was the same batch as 1st cut from 2021) 

We started soaking as soon as we received his blood work results and returned to the emergency diet. Will be sampling the remaining bales.

Should we start to increase his pergolide to 2 mgs at this time in preparation for the seasonal rise?

Any other suggestions regarding his crazy high insulin?

Thank you in advance,
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Connie Proceviat
2013 Manitoba, Canada
Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Connie%20and%20Falki
Falki Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=254861

This info was from a minor google search:

All astringent (tannin containing) herbs inhibit absorption through the intestinal tract, so should be taken at separate times from vitamin and mineral supplements. The most useful time to take slippery elm bark powder is at before bedtime, so that the digestive tract can be protected from the attack of acids for the entire night.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeJ7EOq1iEmwAPDcPxQt.;_ylc=X1MDMjExNDcwMDU1OQRfcgMyBGZyA3locy1tbmV0LTAwMQRmcjIDc2ItdG9wBGdwcmlkA2IxMHNMbkFsUTBDSXRpT2tQT1lWWkEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzQEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMwBHFzdHJsAzYwBHF1ZXJ5A3NsaXBwZXJ5JTIwZWxtJTIwYmFyayUyMHBvd2RlciUyMGFic29ycHRpb24lMjBvZiUyMHZpdGFtaW5zJTIwYW5kJTIwbWluZXJhbHMEdF9zdG1wAzE2NTU1MjAwMjA-?p=slippery+elm+bark+powder+absorption+of+vitamins+and+minerals&fr2=sb-top&hspart=mnet&hsimp=yhs-001&param1=6246&param2=84501&type=type9045647-spa-6246-84501

Maybe I should study more in depth and not just take the surface info as gospel.
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Rene` in WI 2021
CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io | Album
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Rene%60%20and%20Isaac
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Rene%60%20and%20Joshua

I have been looking into APF as recommended. Two of the ingredients in this are:Eleutherococcus senticosus - Siberian ginseng and Echinopanax elatus - a relative of Panax ginseng.

In an article by Dr. Kellon on the use of Jiaogulan it was stated that we should use caution when adding any other Ginseng to the diet.

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/Pain%20Medication%20and%20Alternatives/Jiaogulan,%20Nitric%20Oxide%20Support,%20AAKG%20and%20Supps/Jiaogulan%20Doses%20and%20Precautions.pdf
The following may reduce the effect of Jiaogulan and should be avoided:
 Ginsengs and other herbs that have some nitric oxide stimulating potential, such as Hawthorne

As always, just being cautious.
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Rene` in WI 2021
CaseHistory@ECIR.groups.io | Album
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Rene%60%20and%20Isaac
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Rene%60%20and%20Joshua

Stacy, in case you’re still having problems, my screen has a blue button which says “new/upload”.  Click that button and then choose “add folder”.
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So sorry for your loss, Dawn.

May your many memories help sustain you during this difficult time.

Hugs.

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Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR)
Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge
Jan 05, RI
Moderator ECIR

Oh Dawn
what an amazing bond you had with your boy, I’m so sorry for your loss. He was special in every way.  

 

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Bobbie and Maggie 
Desi (over the rainbow bridge 7/21) 
Utah, Nov 2018
NRC Plus 2020, NAT, C&IR March 2021
ECIR Group Primary Response 

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Maggie
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=271156

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Desi 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78821

Dawn, thinking of you and Tipperary. 
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Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012
ECIR Group Moderator
Cayuse and Diamond Case History Folder                
Cayuse Photos                Diamond Photos

Thank you , I know it was at the end of the form. I am just having issues with doing it. Will try again


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Stacy Laws
Northern Virgina USA
June 2022

Hi Carol,
Hi Sherry,

Thanks for the responses! I'm soaking this (and any other) hay for an hour before feeding. I talked with the lab and they said that NIR has all checks and balances in place and that the tests are pretty much equivalent. I'm not knowledgeable in this so I took their word for it. This is the first cutting from the field that I will continue buying from if the hay is good. The previous sample was from the same field, but the third cutting of last year. To an untrained eye they look comparable - I'm not sure if that's accurate, of if this is even relevant. I can certainly call them and try to get them to run #644 if they still have the remainder of the sample. Should I?

Thanks!
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Ed P in TX 2022
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Edward%20and%20Atticus
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=273196

Vale Tipperary. 

Dawn, I have learned so much over the years from posts about your journey with your beautiful boy, I feel as though I almost ‘knew’ him. Thank you for sharing the good times and bad with us. I am glad he went peacefully over the bridge, he knew how beloved he was. 

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Maxine and Indy (PPID) and Dangles (PPID)

Canberra, Australia 2010
ECIR Primary Response

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=933

 

Blessed be, Tipperary and you!
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- Frances C.
December 2017, Washington & California
Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Frances%20and%20Phoenix
Phoenix's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=12382