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Re: Flax

Animal Crackers
 

I forgot to change the Case History link...

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Linda%20and%20Thistle



Flax

Animal Crackers
 

Is there a substitute for freshly ground flax. Thistle refuses to eat anything with even the smallest amount of flax in it. We've tried everything we could think of!

Linda and Thistle
Oregon
February 2016
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Linda%20and%20Thistle/


Re: URL Test Post Looking out for the horse

 

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:12 pm, Ducki Shaffer <motherduck1@...> wrote:
Has anyone else thought of this kind of thing? What is everyone doing so these horses have company?

 On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:12 pm, Ducki Shaffer <motherduck1@...> wrote:

Has anyone else thought of this kind of thing? What is everyone doing so these horses have company?

 My IR/Cushings mare has a stall and paddock right next to my run-in for my other horses.  She has access to her stall or she can go out in her paddock and see my other two.  Sometimes she calls to them and they usually call back if they are too far away for her to see (her eye sight isn't what it use to be).  I have this set up in my front pasture as well as my back pasture.  I ordered some horse panels from Lowes to make her paddock in the back and they can be moved if I have to.


All of my horses are on the same routine, low starch/sugar hay, balanced minerals with beet pulp and Triple Crown Lite pellets thrown in.  It is a totally different way then most people take care of their horses but it does get easier.  I have a German friend whose horse foundered and I fought with her until she tried the low starch/sugar diet and after a year her horse is rideable again.  She told another of my friends that she will never put him out on grass again.  She also has another horse and she puts her IR horse in a grassless round pen in the pasture so they can see each other.  There are ways.


Jean and Amber

Buster and Nikki too

South Carolina

August 2004



Re: Email

 

Hi Maggie c

Thank you. Xx

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Apr 2016, at 14:04, Maggie <spiral1957@...> wrote:

Hi Montymoo,

In the upper right hand corner of the screen should be your name with a little down arrow.  Click on that and you will get a menu to change your email address.

Maggie

ECIRmoderator/primary response

March 2011


Re: Email

Maggie
 

Hi Montymoo,

In the upper right hand corner of the screen should be your name with a little down arrow.  Click on that and you will get a menu to change your email address.

Maggie

ECIRmoderator/primary response

March 2011


Email

 

Hello  

how do I change my email address so I can log in under an email that I used the most?

thank you xx


Posting Messages During the Transfer

LeeAnne Bloye <ecir.archives@...>
 

Yahoo's ECIR Messages are taking a while to transfer.  To avoid messages being buried and lost when the transfer happens the messages here will remain closed until the transfer.  

Until this happens please post your messages in the Yahoo Group to receive the help you need.  You may need to monitor for replies on line.

Note: the Yahoo Case Histories, Horsekeeping and hoof groups have made the transfer and are closed for all but viewing.  If you have a case history to upload it goes here.    

Thanks so much for your patience with this move.  

- ​LeeAnne, Newmarket, Ontario

ECIR Archivist 03/2004

 

Are you in the Pergolide Dosage Database?

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View the Database Stats 

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Access question from a group member

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Posting here for everyone's benefit.

Question/Comment:

Would it be possible to automatically subscribe all members as you open new folders for photo uploads?  For a list member there is nothing more frustrating than reading an interesting read, clicking on the link to open the photos that are referenced, or marked up, and finding you do not have access.


It seems as if it might also reduce moderator / management load. 

Thanks for considering,

Reply:

If the photos are located in a subgroup such as Hoof or Case History and you were a member of that separate Yahoo group before the move to .io you should automatically be a member of the subgroup now.  If you were not a member, all you have to do to join the subgroup is go to the main page

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main

Scroll down to subgroups and click on the group you want to join.



Transfer Status

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Because of the huge size of the ECIR Yahoo group message archive, it's taking a while but they will eventually appear here when you click on Messages from the menu on the left of the page.  Options to reply appear under messages.  To post a new message, click on New Topic.


Re: x rays uploaded

Alyssa Litty
 

Would you please take a moment before hitting send to add your name, general location, year of joining and case history/photos links to your posts. Helps your volunteers reference all the pertinent info quickly.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team

Oh gosh I'm so sorry I have it copied on my clipboard to add to them all, which I think I have but got sidetracked with my excavator fixing my arena before I re read it for the 3rd time. I will remember to keep it added. 


Re: x rays uploaded

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

BINGO!

Correct on all counts on the blood work

The 2015 set isn't horrible by any means, just not optimal. They are classic for what is considered "normal", which basically means "common" rather than optimal.

I'll have those mark-ups for you before the 25th.

Would you please take a moment before hitting send to add your name, general location, year of joining and case history/photos links to your posts. Helps your volunteers reference all the pertinent info quickly.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team


Re: x rays uploaded

Alyssa Litty
 

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team

Thanks for that. Funny thing is the 2015 shots were complemented to being perfect from the vet and the specialty farrier at the vet hospital at the time. I'll have to see what you mark up on them that should be corrected. The we will leave it at that, I'm going to throw in there some of those vet students should probably stick not to equines. My horse had an abscess so he's literally limping 4:5 on the scale and I can't tell you how many go "I'm sorry I just don't know I can't see it" *headdesk*

I have a specialty  farrier coming on the 25th to get a better opinion and see what we can do to improve him. I'm really excited for this guy to be coming out and excited he was willing to make the trip. He said the 1st time with evaluations and everything close to 3 hours. He's already seen X-rays and hoof pics. *crossed fingers*


On a different note. Regarding blood tests and re testing. I was going to pull blood this week to retest Hott Rodd and have it sent to Cornell since everyone says they are more accurate. Am I correct to assume if we are checking out ATCH numbers to see if there's a variation the change in diet aren't going to affect those, right? It could tho affect the insulin numbers since we've been on the emergency diet close to 3 weeks? So we can see if he is PPID but for sure he's IR from the last tests but since we've been on the diet change if the numbers are lower that would mean what we are going towards the right path, correct? 


Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - THE FUTURE OF THE ECIR GROUP

Lorna Cane
 



>>Second, question: will the other Yahoo groups, like the History files, etc associated with this group, also be moving to the new place?


Yes, Lin.



Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002


http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf

 



URL Test Post Looking out for the horse

Bonnie
 

It is possible to have a second horse that is neither IR or PPID kept in the same way as yours. A friend of mine kept her Fjord with my pony. He had no health issues but benefited from the management style, as Fjords gain weight easily.


Maybe you are imagining your horse in an empty, dry space with a pile of hay and nothing to do. If you look up "paddock paradise" tracks you will see another way of doing things. My pony is on a track, with trees, on a hillside, with a shelter. I hang slow-feeder hay nets at different places so he is always moving. He also has a Nose-it ball, which is hollow and drops out haycubes when he rolls it. Cubes are hidden here and there to make things interesting; in the channel of a tire for instance. He will push and flip a tire to get everything out. His companion has moved out, but they were never "buddies". My boy is happier with no competition for the food.


At one time he had a pet chicken for company in the barn at night.


Hope this gives you some ideas -


Bonnie Ivey, Ontario 12/08

Lad, IR/PPID


Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - THE FUTURE OF THE ECIR GROUP

Lin Reuther
 

Hi moderators,
First, thank you for all the work you do on this site! Such a treasure trove of fabulous information!
Second, question: will the other Yahoo groups, like the History files, etc associated with this group, also be moving to the new place?
Thanks.
Lin R in Vt - sunny and 70 today!!


Re: Notice of Change

Nancy C
 

Hi Leigh

I assume you mean you have saved the actual text from the email.  You should not lose those.

If you mean you have saved the links, we are hoping the archived messages transfer in basically the same order/condition they are currently on yahoo.  This makes fixing the 100s of links we have in places a lot easier. We'll see.

Recommend you download your CH and photos and save on computer or cloud or other.  This is just a good idea even without a move.

Reminder that while posting will stop on all yahoo groups, access to files and photos will remain open for the foreseeable future.

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Group mod
February 2003


---In EquineCushings@..., <equinesrfun@...> wrote :

Is there anything that members of this group should do? I have over 40,000 emails from this group archived in a folder. Will I lose those?
Leigh, Ace & Shadow
Az 2012?


Re: URL Test Post Looking out for the horse

Susan Zingle
 

When my thoroughbred retired, I got him a Shetland pony to keep him company. They were a hoot together. But actually it was a bad idea, as a thoroughbred and a Shetland pony have completely different metabolisms. The thoroughbred could be out on pasture 24/7, but the Shetland foundered just looking at grass. So management for a few years was complicated. Ultimately the thoroughbred passed (in 2004, miss him still) and I got a companion pony for the companion pony. Approximately the same metabolism, so they can get the same feed. Feed both Ontario Dehy Timothy Balancer Cubes exclusively, the Shetland now also on Prascend. They have a (mostly) bare paddock around the barn, and I leave the stall doors open so they can go in and out as they want. Management MUCH easier.

So, the point - get a companion with approximately the same needs as your existing horse.

Susan, with Pony (and Sport)
Chicago suburb, 2003


Re: URL Test Post Looking out for the horse

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Ducki,

I think that's a wonderful idea, Cushing's or not. Just bear in mind that with a Cushing's horse comes the added expense of medication, so intentionally acquiring somebody with these issues,comes with 'side effects', so to speak.
Having said that , I have lived  with 7 Cushing's boys over the years ( and one still), and  have somehow managed to find the money to keep them medicated.
They have all passed from issues not related to PPID. They have lived happily  riding in the countryside, being lesson masters, and therapeutic riding stars, in some cases, for over a decade from diagnosis.
I always like to have a buddy for everyone since they are herd animals,but I do have one who is/appears to be totally fine on his own, and will even choose to do so sometimes,when he has the opportunity to come and go as he wishes.

Good luck with your decision.
Rescue horses are very special,in my books.


Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002


http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf

 

 
>>>But I was thinking that maybe a rescue would have another Cushing's horse that he might get along with that they would be pasture pals.
I don't think I'll do that either but looking out for the horse a rescue would be the thing to do in my mind.



 


Re: URL Test Post Looking out for the horse

motherduck1@...
 

Hi again
Your following comment has brought up a subject I have been beating around in my head.

"Most of us have had to change our way of thinking about managing horses as we've learned more. Unfortunately, many of the standard, accepted horse keeping practices are based on what is easy for the caretakers rather than what is best for the horses. As the horses' needs have become better understood over time, management strategies have also undergone huge changes to reflect the new insights."

When i first started reading about Cushing's I read that some people just put these horses down.
I thought this people were crazy crack pots.
I also read that they only live 3 years and i read that they can live a full life time.So at this point I was lost.
Now that Arizona is a good bit better then he was and I'm learning that he will never ever be on pasture again, the area he is in is behind the barn where we can't him or him us. He's all alone without any other horses or people. Even though in the 3 years we had him he never had much interest in people.
But my point being. That;s not much of a life for a horse.
No I have NO THOUGHTS AT ALL OF PUTTING HIM DOWN.
I have thought of a rescue maybe, this would only be after he's health, at least a year from now.
But I was thinking that maybe a rescue would have another Cushing's horse that he might get along with that they would be pasture pals.
I don't think I'll do that either but looking out for the horse a rescue would be the thing to do in my mind.
Has anyone else thought of this kind of thing? What is everyone doing so these horses have company?

Ducki in PA almost 0 experience with sick horses

Rx Feb. 13,2016 with Cushing’s ,EMS, Lyme, Insulin resistance, Liver Failure

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Arizona%20and%20Ducki/

Joined April 12, 2016

Still didn't figure how to delete the other part of the message sorry


Re: Sherry and Scarlet TY

motherduck1@...
 

Hi Sherry Thanks for your reply. I'll check with the Penn State Ext. Office on the Hay info. They will be up here again in a couple of weeks to check our pastures I'll check with them then.

On The Hilton Herbs. Yes, I Know there is more then Milk Thistle in there, that is the reason I went that direction. My guy needs the extras for his liver. I would like to get deeper into why the extra herbs are bad for the Cushing's.  When i get time I'll have to look closer.
Thanks again

Ducki in PA

Rx Feb. 13,2016 with Cushing’s ,EMS, Lyme, Insulin resistance, Liver Failure

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Arizona%20and%20Ducki/

Joined April 12, 2016

Sorry everyone could not figure how to trim post.