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New case history/hay results

Heather Leonard
 

Things have finally settled down after the holidays and I am hoping to figure out what is going on with my MFT mare.  I have her blood results from Cornell and hay results from my hay.  I have requested to join the ECHistory8 group. As soon as I am approved, I will upload her case history.  Do I upload my hay results there too?  Wasn't sure. Will be looking to have help balancing my hay with the appropriate minerals.  I have printed out the list of people who do that. Is there a place to find out where they are located to find who is located near me? Or does that not matter?  


Trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can, but feeling a bit like a fish out of water.  I have been a member of the group for a couple of years, but due to other life concerns haven't given enough time to following this group or learning as much as I should have. I apologize upfront for being a complete newbie even though I have been a member for a couple of years.  Will work really hard to get up to speed and hopefully figure out exactly what is going on with my mare so that I can help her be as healthy and  comfortable as possible.  She is a wonderful horse who deserves the best I can give her as she has been the most amazing trail buddy I have ever had.  Hopefully, she and I be able to share many more adventures on the trails in the years to come!


Thanks in advance as I know I am going to have many questions.


Heather

Mass, 2000


Re: Thank you!

Dee Kenville
 

Got 3rd set of xrays yesterday on Bren....enough sole to ride and almost
NO rotation! He has healed himself with the help of this group! Still
awaiting ACTH test results and when I get those I will update profile and
add xrays.
The irony of it is he is still ouchy and my granddaughter and I were so
focused on his laminitic condtion that we totally thought we were going
into the xrays to see huge additional rotation after 2nd laminitic
episode. All 3 of us, Vet, granddaughter and I all stood there with our
mouths open when we saw how nice his feet look compared to a few months
ago. We slapped boots on him and no ouchiness! Duh! I'm usually so aware
of things like ouchiness in a fresh trim or spring trail hardening or in
his case ...all the factors affecting his sole and shape of his foot that
he is ouchy. I am guessing in a few months he won't even need the boots.
Anyway, I will update soon...but wanted to thank you all so much for the
help! Bren is my granddaughter's horse and yesterday when the vet said
she could start riding him in soft sand at a walk a few minutes a day, she
just climbed on and was hugging him and crying. And you should have seen
Bren's expression when he realized he had a job again...so happy!:)

Dee in Santa Cruz, Northern CA

Bren Yahoo ECHistory 8 Link
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Dee%20Kenville/
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/photos/albums/127898455
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/photos/albums/127898455



http://ndeewoods.com/


Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

Nancy C
 

Hi lj

Thanks for the pics. Good job on copy and paste.  Jessie has clearly had hoof insults. Will leave comments to the hoof gurus but wanted to offer some tweaking for taking photos next time.

You can add to labeling directly in Yahoo prior to sending the photos along, ie LF lateral before trim.

We want to keep IR hoof discussions here on the main list but you can also use the dialoge icon on each photo for labeling purposes.

Here are two links to how to get good photos. 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/files

 

Look for

2How to take hoof photos.htm Pictures and instructions to get the best shots for evaluation thanks to Lisa/equine_habit

and


http://www.all-natural-horse-care.com/good-hoof-photos.html

 


The placement and angle of the camera are important.  It takes a little practice but can be done.  Most of us who have been at this for a while can attest to the fact that with practice, you can do it by yourself, without a helper.

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
Invest in the health of your horse and help ECIR Group nonprofit at the same time! Hear Drs Kellon, Bowker and more, in eight hours of great info and informative Q&A from 2013 NO Laminitis! Conference.

Conference Proceedings & Recordings

 




---In EquineCushings@..., <lj_friedman@...> wrote :

Posted pix are right before the trim and right after.   lj friedman san diego nov 2014




 




Re: EC and vaccinations

Nancy C
 

Thank you so much for those vids, Laura.  A great way to start another morning on the computer! 
Anyone who needs  lift should take a look.

I keep hearing voices in my head that have said "we did not test for PPID because my horse did not have symptoms".  Sometimes the symptoms are as simple as my horse won't get up or come see me when she's called and are chalked up to "old age".

Thanks again for sharing, Laura.

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
Learn the facts about IR, PPID, equine nutrition, exercise and the foot.
www.ECIRhorse.org
Check out the FACTS on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup
Support the ECIR Group Inc., the nonprofit arm of the ECIR Group
http://ecirhorse.org/index.php/equine-cushing-s-and-insulin-resistance-group-inc



---In EquineCushings@..., <lauracull@...> wrote :

Hi Nancy, thanks I will check those out. Glad our good news made your day. Here is a link to some videos I took of Hope over the past year. At the time I had no idea I would be chronicling the year of her diagnosis.
Cheers,
Laura & Hope
Oct 2014
Kelowna, BC, Canada


Re: STOP the Nonsense

janieclougher@...
 

Ten thumbs up, LeeAnne!

Jaini (BVSc),Merlin,Maggie,Gypsy
BC 09
ECIR mod/support
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHistory/files/Jaini%20Clougher%2C%20Smithers%20BC/


In addition to Lorna's excellent post:  When members join the groups there are many emails automatically sent.  These emails contain VALUABLE directions designed to save time, frustration and pain for everyone.  You probably are freaking out over your horse’s condition but learning how to use the ECIR resources, posting a properly filled out case history and a complete signature are essential to quickly get the answers needed to help the horses.  Weeks can be wasted with questions going back and forth just so volunteers get the information they need to help. 



Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

palomino.1982@...
 

Lorna replied to your question on Jan 4.
Message #191209

Susan
EC Primary Response
SoCal 2007



Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

lj friedman
 

my ifone 6 is on its way... can u send me a tutorial on how to send these 2 links?   if its too much trouble, I know some younging that can help in a few days.  thank you


Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

Lorna Cane
 

This is how your message should look, to be most helpful to your horse:


Posted pix are right before the trim and right after.   lj friedman san diego nov 2014

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Jesse%20and%20LJ%20Friedman/




Lorna in Ontario,Canada

ECIR Moderator 2002


*See What Works in Equine Nutrition*
http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup





Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

lj friedman
 

Posted pix are right before the trim and right after.   lj friedman san diego nov 2014



not sure how to post history from this area..  As well I copied/pasted hoof pix link that you just sent to me..

 




Re: EC and vaccinations

Laura Cull
 

Hi Nancy, thanks I will check those out. Glad our good news made your day. Here is a link to some videos I took of Hope over the past year. At the time I had no idea I would be chronicling the year of her diagnosis.
Cheers,
Laura & Hope
Oct 2014
Kelowna, BC, Canada


Re: peroglide veil

Lorna Cane
 



>You should see veil signs quickly, 

Just to say here that I have started 6 horses on compounded pergolide,and none has experienced the veil.
So as usual some do and some don't.

Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002


*See What Works in Equine Nutrition*
http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup




Re: EC and vaccinations

Nancy C
 

Hi Laura

That is great news to hear about your mare.  Made my day.

RE: Vax...it really is an individual risk/benefit decision based on location, horse history and issues you may see.  For my area, we see potential for WNV and EEE almost every year and my boys are out 24/7 so I vax for that. I have not given my coming 28 y/o PPID/IR boy rabies for the last two years.

There is some info in the files and archived messages.  This comes up every spring, as you might imagine.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/files/Vaccinations/

 

This is a good thread

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/conversations/topics/127588

 

Some folks use anit-histamines before and after the shot to help minimize any reaction.

Dr Kellon does a great short course (four weeks) on Vax.  She has a two-for-one sale going on now.

Here's to your mare's other issues resolving with pergolide and balanced diet on board.  It happens a lot!

Will need to leave the sourcing of minerals to fellow Canadians. 

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
Learn the facts about IR, PPID, equine nutrition, exercise and the foot.
www.ECIRhorse.org
Check out the FACTS on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup
Support the ECIR Group Inc., the nonprofit arm of the ECIR Group
http://ecirhorse.org/index.php/equine-cushing-s-and-insulin-resistance-group-inc

---In EquineCushings@..., <lauracull@...> wrote :

Hi,


On another note, Jaini completed a hay analysis and I am working on sourcing the recommended minerals (prefer to buy in Canada if possible). I have a new farrier coming tomorrow to start working on a new trim. My mare has been on pergolide for almost 6 weeks and she is back to her old self with spunk and life in her eyes. We are well on our way to putting the stress of the fall behind us.


Many thanks,


Laura & Hope

Oct 2014

Kelowna, BC, Canada

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Laura%20and%20Hope/


 


Re: peroglide veil

Nancy C
 

You should see veil signs quickly, either when starting or when adjusting. It sounds like so far (day 2 - .05 mg) that you are okay.  You will know you are okay when you get to the proper dose without incident. Diet and adaptogens (APF) play a huge role so you are on the right track.

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
Learn the facts about IR, PPID, equine nutrition, exercise and the foot.
www.ECIRhorse.org
Check out the FACTS on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup
Support the ECIR Group Inc., the nonprofit arm of the ECIR Group
http://ecirhorse.org/index.php/equine-cushing-s-and-insulin-resistance-group-inc
.


---In EquineCushings@..., <lj_friedman@...> wrote :I;m on day 2 of .50mg prascend working slowly to 1.0 and everything looks great with apf.. etc.. lj friedman san diego nov 2014. 

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Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

Lavinia Fiscaletti
 


Hi LJ,

Here is the link to Jesse's photo album:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ECHoof/photos/albums/1834366375

Helps if you include it in your posts, just like the case history.

Are the photos all post trim or are they a combination of before and afters?

Lots of foot overall, heels high, toes long.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team




STOP the Nonsense

ThePitchforkPrincess@...
 

Okay now that you are reading this, please excuse the shocking and misleading subject line :-O but continue to read this post if you want help for your horse.


In addition to Lorna's excellent post:  When members join the groups there are many emails automatically sent.  These emails contain VALUABLE directions designed to save time, frustration and pain for everyone.  You probably are freaking out over your horse’s condition but learning how to use the ECIR resources, posting a properly filled out case history and a complete signature are essential to quickly get the answers needed to help the horses.  Weeks can be wasted with questions going back and forth just so volunteers get the information they need to help. 

 

There are tons of concise "How to" documents in the files.  

There are documents explaining:

How to make a signature (including how to link to your case history)

How to fill out your case history and use your case history folder

How to search the files – search to find instant information or instructions

 

By reading and following the directions in these documents so much time and equine discomfort can be saved.  Not providing a case history link is like phoning the garage to make an appointment and then not showing up.  Taking the car to the garage but not providing the keys is similar to no or a poorly filled out case history.  PLEASE help us to help your horse!  We need signatures and links and well filled out case histories.  

 

For members using “new” devices (not computers) to access the group:

In this day and age, with so many different devices out there, it is hard for websites to keep up.  Yahoo is no exception and is not new-device-friendly.  LOL, neither are many of us in the group, however, one way to get answers on how to work a specific device (iPhone 4, iPad, Mac, or whatever)  is to ask a search engine "How to (upload a document to Yahoo Group or Post a message to a Yahoo Group, or whatever) with a (name of device).    Unless you are using the very latest technology, if you need to know how to do something, chances someone else has already had the same problem and posted about it.  The directions are likely online somewhere. 

 

LeeAnne, Newmarket, Ontario

ECIR Archivist 03/2004

 

Are you in the Pergolide Dosage Database?

ECIR Files Table of Contents

 

Taken For Granite Art - Lightweight Cement Sculpture and Memorials



Re: cant attach anything to an email when using NEW TOPIC icon

Nancy C
 

Hi lj

The group does not allow attachments and would like to keep your records accessible in ECH8.  Please upload to your Case history folder.

Thanks!

Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003
Invest in the health of your horse and help ECIR Group nonprofit at the same time! Hear Drs Kellon, Bowker and more, in eight hours of great info and informative Q&A from 2013 NO Laminitis! Conference.

http://ecirhorse.org/index.php/conference-proceedings-recordings



---In EquineCushings@..., <lj_friedman@...> wrote :

. why?  lj friedman san diego nov 2014


Re: Jesse trim jan 6 2015

Lorna Cane
 


> ( am I supposed to include the hoof link here, like case history?  


Look at it this way -

Your volunteers want to help you help your horse.
It is all about the horse.

Most  volunteers, if not all, have their own horses to care for,many of whom are PPID/IR.

Many of us, aside from just caring for our special needs horses, are also dealing with crises, which pop up for one horse or another. Ask me how I know.

We are all committed to helping members here help their horses.

So the easier it is for us to find a case history - that'd be a link - or find hoof pictures - that'd be a link - or find a product being asked about - that'd be a link - and so on, the faster we are  able to get appropriate feedback posted.

It takes extra time to search through the years of case histories to find the one being asked about. Unnecessary , sometimes unavailable extra time.
A link could make the difference between a timely answer being provided to questions, and not. 
Simply because of time constraints, not because of lack of will to help.

Think about how easy it is to find something being discussed when someone else provides a link for us here.

The more we know,the better we can help the horses.
But do remember that we are over 12,000 members here. Keeping posters' details straight , in one place, is absolutely necessary. Links to details allow us to do this.


BUT, don't ever hesitate to post just because you don't have a link to something.

Provide whatever information available,and we'll help work through it,and maybe 

even find a link for the next time it's needed.

If you don't know how to post a link,we'll walk you through that,too. No problem. 

We've all been there.


We are warriors. We can do this.

For the horse.


Lorna in Ontario,Canada
ECIR Moderator 2002


*See What Works in Equine Nutrition*
http://www.ecirhorse.com/images/stories/Success_Story_3_-Ollies_Story__updated.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/ECIRGroup






EC and vaccinations

Laura Cull
 

Hi,


Since one of the symptoms of PPID is a weakened immune system, do you suggest to keep up with annual vaccinations? 


My TB mare will be approx 23 yrs old this year (although she has a lot of grey in her face so she could easily be older). On the advise of my vet I haven't vaccinated her for a few years. She lives on a small acreage with two other older horses who only leave the property to trail ride. The property is surrounded on one side by a forest, another an apple orchard and another a farm with a few cows and two older horses who never leave the property. My mare and I trail ride every week or so in the spring to fall months and otherwise she is always at home.


What do you advise? She has never had an adverse reaction but it has been a few years since her last vaccination. She struggles every summer with scratches and the last two summers with eye infections and a runny nose.


On another note, Jaini completed a hay analysis and I am working on sourcing the recommended minerals (prefer to buy in Canada if possible). I have a new farrier coming tomorrow to start working on a new trim. My mare has been on pergolide for almost 6 weeks and she is back to her old self with spunk and life in her eyes. We are well on our way to putting the stress of the fall behind us.


Many thanks,


Laura & Hope

Oct 2014

Kelowna, BC, Canada

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Laura%20and%20Hope/



Re: peroglide veil

lj friedman
 

I'm curious if there is data as to if a horse gets the veil. when might it start and when might we know it wont be a problem?  I;m on day 2 of .50mg prascend working slowly to 1.0 and everything looks great with apf.. etc.. lj friedman san diego nov 2014. 

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cant attach anything to an email when using NEW TOPIC icon

lj friedman
 

New topic allows me to create this email but has no way to include my case history via an attachment.  I can include an attachement if I  open the mail icon( blue envelope) and work from there  . why?  lj friedman san diego nov 2014

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