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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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My 20yr old pony presented with laminitis (confirmed by x-rays showing mild rotation on both fronts) on the 22nd. She was diagnosed with Cushing’s a few years ago and that has been under control with
My 20yr old pony presented with laminitis (confirmed by x-rays showing mild rotation on both fronts) on the 22nd. She was diagnosed with Cushing’s a few years ago and that has been under control with
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Thank you for the replies, everyone! If I were to stop the NSAID to put her on Jiaogulan, is there anything else I could ask the vet for to help with the pain? I've read that some people have had good
Thank you for the replies, everyone! If I were to stop the NSAID to put her on Jiaogulan, is there anything else I could ask the vet for to help with the pain? I've read that some people have had good
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Gymah
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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And to confirm, wrapping/ providing warmth to the legs is to help with circulation?
And to confirm, wrapping/ providing warmth to the legs is to help with circulation?
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Would it be beneficial to continue with the acetaminophen? I didn't really notice any difference since starting it.
Would it be beneficial to continue with the acetaminophen? I didn't really notice any difference since starting it.
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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For my own knowledge, why is metabolic laminitis not an inflammatory disorder like in carb/ sugar overload laminitis? Isn't it inflammation that causes the heat/ pain? What specifically causes the hoo
For my own knowledge, why is metabolic laminitis not an inflammatory disorder like in carb/ sugar overload laminitis? Isn't it inflammation that causes the heat/ pain? What specifically causes the hoo
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Thank you, everyone! When reading about other people's stories when they had a horse with endocrine laminitis, the vet usually prescribed a thyroid medication over Metformin. Why is this usually (at l
Thank you, everyone! When reading about other people's stories when they had a horse with endocrine laminitis, the vet usually prescribed a thyroid medication over Metformin. Why is this usually (at l
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Thank you! I wasn't able to get ahold of the vet yesterday - despite asking the receptionist for a call back from the vet multiple times. The vet is supposed to call this morning so I can bring up usi
Thank you! I wasn't able to get ahold of the vet yesterday - despite asking the receptionist for a call back from the vet multiple times. The vet is supposed to call this morning so I can bring up usi
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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She is started on Metformin (12 850mg tabs 2/day - she is 12.2hh) and the J-herb now. Hopefully they start to make a difference soon! I've read that Metformin looses its effectiveness after awhile? Ho
She is started on Metformin (12 850mg tabs 2/day - she is 12.2hh) and the J-herb now. Hopefully they start to make a difference soon! I've read that Metformin looses its effectiveness after awhile? Ho
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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When is it recommended for horses going through a laminitic episode to start walking/ being turned out in a small paddock? Once they are sound at a walk without boots? Once they are sound with boots?
When is it recommended for horses going through a laminitic episode to start walking/ being turned out in a small paddock? Once they are sound at a walk without boots? Once they are sound with boots?
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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I just took my pony off the Previcox this morning (she's on the J-herb now along with Metformin). Hopefully she doesn't get any worse not being on any pain meds. She really wanted to push out of her s
I just took my pony off the Previcox this morning (she's on the J-herb now along with Metformin). Hopefully she doesn't get any worse not being on any pain meds. She really wanted to push out of her s
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Thinking ahead to longterm management now that my pony has had a bout of laminitis, should I look into changing out the footing in her paddock to sand (it's currently crusher dust)? Do they normally h
Thinking ahead to longterm management now that my pony has had a bout of laminitis, should I look into changing out the footing in her paddock to sand (it's currently crusher dust)? Do they normally h
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Alternatives to NSAIDs
For a horse who has been on Metformin and Jiaogulan for 3 days (and on pergolide for several years), would you recommend the horse to have any pain medications if they are still a bit tender footed (e
For a horse who has been on Metformin and Jiaogulan for 3 days (and on pergolide for several years), would you recommend the horse to have any pain medications if they are still a bit tender footed (e
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Lowering high insulin levels? Caused laminitis
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Thank you, everyone! I appreciate the replies. I’ll try to get recent hoof pics and the x-rays posted. Her crest is still quite hard. How long can it take until it starts to soften again?
Thank you, everyone! I appreciate the replies. I’ll try to get recent hoof pics and the x-rays posted. Her crest is still quite hard. How long can it take until it starts to soften again?
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Metformin compounded as a liquid?
Has anyone given metformin as a liquid straight from the pharmacy? My pony has been on metformin since late December, and it’s caused some irritation around her lips (but not in her mouth). I’ve been
Has anyone given metformin as a liquid straight from the pharmacy? My pony has been on metformin since late December, and it’s caused some irritation around her lips (but not in her mouth). I’ve been
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Metformin compounded as a liquid?
Yes, I’m using about 20ml of the milk of magnesia and I’m rinsing her mouth out afterwards. It’s odd that it’s only affecting her lips and not her mouth. I found this place online: https://www.wedgewo
Yes, I’m using about 20ml of the milk of magnesia and I’m rinsing her mouth out afterwards. It’s odd that it’s only affecting her lips and not her mouth. I found this place online: https://www.wedgewo
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Metformin compounded as a liquid?
The Metformin is working really well to keep my pony’s insulin levels under control and to help with her symptoms, so I definitely want to get this irritation sorted so I can continue to give it. I’d
The Metformin is working really well to keep my pony’s insulin levels under control and to help with her symptoms, so I definitely want to get this irritation sorted so I can continue to give it. I’d
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Metformin compounded as a liquid?
Thank you! I’ll ask about the cost. Amy, when you had it compounded in oil did you notice any difference with it causing irritation? Or did you not have that problem in the first place? Metformin is o
Thank you! I’ll ask about the cost. Amy, when you had it compounded in oil did you notice any difference with it causing irritation? Or did you not have that problem in the first place? Metformin is o
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Changes in soundness
My pony is the same way. She was diagnosed with insulin induced laminitis on December 22nd (2021). She has since been started on Metformin and has improved significantly, but some days she'll be a lit
My pony is the same way. She was diagnosed with insulin induced laminitis on December 22nd (2021). She has since been started on Metformin and has improved significantly, but some days she'll be a lit
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How do the x-rays look? And what to do about high insulin (again), even while on metformin?
My pony (confirmed cushings since 2016 and treated with Prascend) developed laminitis for the first time on 22/12/2021. Her insulin was tested then and came back at over 2700 pmol/L. She was started o
My pony (confirmed cushings since 2016 and treated with Prascend) developed laminitis for the first time on 22/12/2021. Her insulin was tested then and came back at over 2700 pmol/L. She was started o
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How do the x-rays look? And what to do about high insulin (again), even while on metformin?
ACTH came in at 3.57 pmol/L. Her weight is about 600lbs, and she gets 12 tabs 2/day of the 850mg Metformin tablets. I haven’t uploaded a case history, but all information is written above. I find this
ACTH came in at 3.57 pmol/L. Her weight is about 600lbs, and she gets 12 tabs 2/day of the 850mg Metformin tablets. I haven’t uploaded a case history, but all information is written above. I find this
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