...start work again? With his all new ODBTC/flax/salt/vit E diet and
J-herb, Toby has stopped having a pulse and heat in his feet. YEAH!
The pony has no rotation and is now sound enough to trot and canter on
hard ground, the farrier is coming tomorrow for his trim. My vet said
to wait a month but that's a long time! what do you all say? Also
how long do you give J-herb, weeks, months, forever?

Thanks,

Helene

--- In EquineCushings@..., "goponies" <goponies@...> wrote:

...start work again? With his all new ODBTC/flax/salt/vit E diet and
J-herb, Toby has stopped having a pulse and heat in his feet. YEAH!
The pony has no rotation and is now sound enough to trot and canter

on hard ground, the farrier is coming tomorrow for his trim.

Hi Helene,
.....I would be asking your ferrier about the condition of Tobys hoofs
prior to riding tomorrow. If your vet states a month I would not ride
until he has checked Toby and both the vet and the ferrier state they
think it is safe to do so and then start with walking if you get the go
ahead. Does Toby have stretch white line? With heat and pulses not so
lomg ago then I would summize he has some hoof issues and require some
healing time. You might also consider posting picts of Toby's hoofs for
the hoof gurus to purus first as another option prior to riding. Not
sure of the history with Toby but I would be cautious given he was
sore.It can takes months to well over a year depending on how much
damage was sustained and what the DDT your horse is on. I realize he is
playing and seems to be fine, but there is different when weight is
applied on his back and when some one is telling him to go. When he is
on his own if it hurts he can stop doing what ever he is doing. I would
also consider hand walking and utilizing ground rules and games while
you wait for the o.k. even then I would be very cautious.

My vet said to wait a month but that's a long time! what do you all
say?
...It is not long many have to wait ate least a full hoof growth. The
norm is a year or so, depending on the damage and growth rate.
how long do you give J-herb, weeks, months, forever?
.....Not sure what your situation is at the moment and this is very
indvidualize on every equines situation, although the DDT'S have to be
in place at all times. Can you supply details so we may better advise
you on this. I am very glad to here Toby is doing so well. Sounds like
it will not be to long now.
Angela
jarrahbrearebreazebridie

Helene,

Most on this list are very conservative when it comes to asking our
foundered horses to go back to 'work'. There are many here who would
jump up and down to ever have that as an option. :-/ They will be happy
to have a horse who is pasture sound or even makes it. My beloved TB
did not.

I bought a foundered IR mare last summer. The owners were over their
heads and were taking her to 'the auction'. You see she had grass
foundered on Mother's Day. She appeared to come around quickly and when
they asked the vet and their trimmer if they could take her to
a 'famous horse trainer' clinic (groundwork only)the following month,
they gave their blessings. I can tell you that she started out the
morning fine but after about 15 minutes of turning and walking, she
was 'giving an attitude'. That was viewed as her 'Arab self' coming out
and she was dealt with more strongly. After another 15 minutes, she was
parking out (read this as founder stance). No one seemed to notice. The
next day she couldn't move and the next day the vet was called out and
xrays taken. She had rotated to the point where the vet said she would
never be ridden again. All because they put the clinic before her
healing.

So my suggestion is to put your horse first, listen to what he tells
you, and then think again if you might be putting your desires above
Toby's best interest.

As an aside, Annie has been ridden twice both times very briefly and at
a walk. She is cantering, doing flying lead changes, driving horses
around, and showing a beautiful floating trot in the field. Everyone
has given me the go ahead but I am going slowly with Annie back to
soundness that lasts.

Good luck with Toby!
Betsy in Ohio


--- In EquineCushings@..., "goponies" <goponies@...> wrote:

...start work again? With his all new ODBTC/flax/salt/vit E diet and
J-herb, Toby has stopped having a pulse and heat in his feet. YEAH!
The pony has no rotation and is now sound enough to trot and canter

on

hard ground, the farrier is coming tomorrow for his trim. My vet

said

to wait a month but that's a long time! what do you all say? Also
how long do you give J-herb, weeks, months, forever?

Thanks,

Helene