A friend of mine recently found out about a new feed, especially formulated to be low starch and I was todl appropriate for Cushings and IR horses. It is meant to be a "forage replacer". It has no vitamins/minerals added and is meant to be fed with a ration balancer like Grow N Win and with added salt.

Ingredients are: Soybean hulls, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal. Dried plain beet pulp (unsweetened) Distillers Dried Grains and Wheat Middlings.

Analysis is below:

Any thoughts?

HOLMES LABORATORY, INC. FORAGE/FEEDSTUFF
3559 U.S. 62 ANALYSIS REPORT
Millersburg, Ohio 44654 Web site: www.holmeslab.com
Phone:(330)893-2933 Date Reported: 11/06/2007
holmeslabinfo@... Submitted by : Brian Lamb
Customer: Brian Lamb
[A Vital Key to Todays Agriculture] Lab Number: 07-4285
SAMPLE I.D.:Complete Ration
Animal Bedding Supply Smart Source MW
22075 Free Church RD.
South Beliot IL 61080
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Item Units As Sampled Basis Dry Matter Basis
Moisture % 10.65
Dry Matter % 89.35
Crude Protein % 14.90 16.68
Available Protein % 13.10 14.66
Adjusted Crude Protein % 14.59 16.33
A.D.F. Protein % 1.80 2.02
N.D.F. Protein % 2.86 3.20
Soluble Protein %
Degraded Protein %
Protein Solubility %
Protein Degradability %
Lignin % 2.58 2.89
Acid Detergent Fiber % 26.94 30.15
Neutral Detergent Fiber % 41.46 46.40
N.D.F.(Protein Free) % 38.60 43.20
NFC (Non-Fiber Carbohydrate) % 22.68 25.38
Sugar % 3.49 3.91
Starch % 7.25 8.11
NSC= Starch % + Sugar % 10.74 12.02
Crude Fat % 5.81 6.50
TDN % 55.49 62.10
NEl Mcal/lb. .567 .635
NEm Mcal/lb. .558 .625
NEg Mcal/lb. .323 .362
Ash % 6.90 7.72
Lignin Insoluble Ash % .74 .83
Calcium (Ca) % .55 .62
Phosphorus (P) % .57 .64
Magnesium (Mg) % .28 .31
Potassium (K) % 1.19 1.33
Sulfur (S) % .25 .28
Sodium (Na) % .042 .047
Chloride (Cl) % .12 .13
Copper (Cu) ppm 10 11
Manganese (Mn) ppm 56 63
Zinc (Zn) ppm 49 55
Iron (Fe) ppm 383 429
Molybdenum (Mo) ppm 1.8 2.0
Aluminum (Al) ppm
Nitrate (NO3) % Negative
pH
RFV (Relative Feed Value)
Horse DE Mcal/lb. 1.09 1.22
Horse TDN % 54.50 61.00
Crude Fiber %
DCAD meq./100g DM 15.0
DCAD meq./1 lb.DM 68.1
Selenium (Se) ppm -.89 -1.00

National Forage Testing Association Certified


Nan
Thomas
IL



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Are these numbers guaranteed analysis? Or just an analysis of an
average batch?

The sugar and starch numbers - almost 11% - may be too high for
sensitive horses, or may be just low enough for those that can
tolerate more sugar/starch.

Gro N Win would not balance this. It clearly doesn't have enough
calcium, magnesium, copper, zinc, manganese to do the job. And with
an iron that high, I would recommend that Dr. Kellon balance it.

If the batches change, and the iron drops substantially from field
to field or batch to batch, you would need to test each batch.

I would want to know more about variability of the product. How much
does it change from batch to batch? It's not the worst feed out
there, but as far as sugar/starch, I can see it's not the best.

Can you find out more? It sure sounds interesting.

Joan and Dazzle

--- In EquineCushings@..., n rand <nantomluna@...> wrote:

A friend of mine recently found out about a new feed, especially

formulated to be low starch and I was todl appropriate for Cushings
and IR horses. It is meant to be a "forage replacer". It has no
vitamins/minerals added and is meant to be fed with a ration
balancer like Grow N Win and with added salt.

--- In EquineCushings@..., n rand <nantomluna@...> wrote:

Ingredients are: Soybean hulls, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal. Dried plain

beet pulp (unsweetened) Distillers Dried Grains and Wheat Middlings.

I agree with what Joan said. You would definitely have to a mineral
program that matches this feed, not a fixed formula mineral. ESC +
starch is iffy, but problem being that starch is digested 100% to
glucose. Alfalfa also has a high % of glucose than grass hays. Horses
well stabilized may tolerate it OK as a grain replacer but I suspect a
lot wouldn't as a complete feed/hay replacer unless the horse is
exercising.

Eleanor

I forwarded on the comments re:the feed (without attribution) to Brian Lamb, the developer of the feed. He has worked with two nutritionist in the development of the feed.

This is a brand new feed, still really being tinkered with. He has had it custom milled. Originally it was developed as a grain replacement for his growing horses. For them it was meant to be balanced with a "balancer" also developed by the company which was similar to Grow-N-Win. It then became of interest to owners of IR and Cushngs horses and a number of those horses are currently on the feed (with a balancer) and doing well . Fortification of the feed for older horses is meant to be different than for growing babies.

Brian would like to comment to the group re: questions in the letters. He is really trying to produce a high quality feed and welcomes questions, comments and suggestions.

I will forward his reply to the group.

Nan
Thomas
IL




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It's actually very similar to Purina's new WellSolve line, right down
to the fat, sugar and starch. For a fragile IR horse, it would be
better with the wheat midds and added fat out of there.

Eleanor