Date
1 - 11 of 11
Dodson & Horrell Ultimate Balancer
jennifer
I wouldn't think so. Here is the only information I found, but even without a complete analysis this looks already bad for a IR pony IMO:
Full Fat Soya Meal, High Pro Soya, Wheat, Vitamins & Minerals, Wheatfeed, Oatfeed, Dicalcium Phosphate, Glucose Syrup, Skimmed Milk Powder, Limestone, Salt, Vegetable Oil, Fruits, Herbs, Yea-Sacc (Saccharomyces cerevisiae 2 x 108 cfu/kg[PS1] msm)
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
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Full Fat Soya Meal, High Pro Soya, Wheat, Vitamins & Minerals, Wheatfeed, Oatfeed, Dicalcium Phosphate, Glucose Syrup, Skimmed Milk Powder, Limestone, Salt, Vegetable Oil, Fruits, Herbs, Yea-Sacc (Saccharomyces cerevisiae 2 x 108 cfu/kg[PS1] msm)
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
--- In EquineCushings@..., "l.shellard@..." <l.shellard@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone in the Uk know if Dodson & Horrell Ultimate Balancer is safe to feed a Cushings /IR pony (currently on Prescend).
Thanks
Lesley
l.shellard@btopenworld.com
Ok thanks Jennifer. So other than Fast Fibre, well soaked hay/straw and restricted grazing, what supplements should I feed to ensure he gets the vitamins & minerals he'll need?
After stopping feeding Top Spec Anti Lam balancer (because people said it was full of sugar) I started making a simple feed of chaff with a scoop hedgerow herbs, scoop of seaweed & teaspoon of magnesium. Trouble is he either got bored of it or didn't like the taste as he'd leave most of it! He has a salt link in the stable and also a mineral lick which he doesn't touch!
Once we've got him sorted I hope to get him back to full fitness as a competitive carraige driving pony so he will need a fair bit of energy & will need to feed his muscles!!
It's so difficult to know what to feed so any advice would be very welcome.
Many thanks,
Lesley in England UK.
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After stopping feeding Top Spec Anti Lam balancer (because people said it was full of sugar) I started making a simple feed of chaff with a scoop hedgerow herbs, scoop of seaweed & teaspoon of magnesium. Trouble is he either got bored of it or didn't like the taste as he'd leave most of it! He has a salt link in the stable and also a mineral lick which he doesn't touch!
Once we've got him sorted I hope to get him back to full fitness as a competitive carraige driving pony so he will need a fair bit of energy & will need to feed his muscles!!
It's so difficult to know what to feed so any advice would be very welcome.
Many thanks,
Lesley in England UK.
--- In EquineCushings@..., "jennifer_hell" <jennifermandy@...> wrote:
I wouldn't think so. Here is the only information I found, but even without a complete analysis this looks already bad for a IR pony IMO:
Full Fat Soya Meal, High Pro Soya, Wheat, Vitamins & Minerals, Wheatfeed, Oatfeed, Dicalcium Phosphate, Glucose Syrup, Skimmed Milk Powder, Limestone, Salt, Vegetable Oil, Fruits, Herbs, Yea-Sacc (Saccharomyces cerevisiae 2 x 108 cfu/kg[PS1] msm)
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
--- In EquineCushings@..., "l.shellard@" <l.shellard@> wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone in the Uk know if Dodson & Horrell Ultimate Balancer is safe to feed a Cushings /IR pony (currently on Prescend).
Thanks
Lesley
jennifer
I would keep him on the emergency diet until you get your hay tested, and then balance to the hay.
Did you read the files section here? :)
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
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Did you read the files section here? :)
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
--- In EquineCushings@..., "l.shellard@..." <l.shellard@...> wrote:
Ok thanks Jennifer. So other than Fast Fibre, well soaked hay/straw and restricted grazing, what supplements should I feed to ensure he gets the vitamins & minerals he'll need?
Marianne Herzberger
--- In EquineCushings@..., "l.shellard@..." <l.shellard@...> wrote:
So other than Fast Fibre, well soaked hay/straw and restricted grazing, what supplements should I feed to ensure he gets the vitamins & minerals he'll need?
Ultimate Balancer is too much of a good thing for an IR horse - if you would have called the help line of D&H ( really nice people and knowledgable) they would have told you that. If you want to stick to D&H as a brand, their 'Daily Vits&Mins' would be the product to opt for when you want to be sure your horse gets a good level of vitamins and minerals.
Another good product would be Formula4Feet by Equilife.
Ofcourse, according to the policy on this message board, the best way to go about it, is to have your hay tested and have a supplement made based on the outcome of the test.
Marianne | The Netherlands | EC 2011
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So other than Fast Fibre, well soaked hay/straw and restricted grazing, what supplements should I feed to ensure he gets the vitamins & minerals he'll need?
Hi Lesley,
It's so difficult to know what to feed so any advice would be very welcome.
Ultimate Balancer is too much of a good thing for an IR horse - if you would have called the help line of D&H ( really nice people and knowledgable) they would have told you that. If you want to stick to D&H as a brand, their 'Daily Vits&Mins' would be the product to opt for when you want to be sure your horse gets a good level of vitamins and minerals.
Another good product would be Formula4Feet by Equilife.
Ofcourse, according to the policy on this message board, the best way to go about it, is to have your hay tested and have a supplement made based on the outcome of the test.
Marianne | The Netherlands | EC 2011
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ECHistory5/files/Marianne/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ECHoof/photos/album/2146989177/pic/list
jennifer
D&H 'Daily Vits&Mins' has 2000mg/kg iron, which would make it a bad choice in my book.
Formula4Feet is alfalfa based, which might be a problem too.
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
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Formula4Feet is alfalfa based, which might be a problem too.
Jennifer in Germany
Laramie July 2011
--- In EquineCushings@..., "jannepauli" <jannepauli@...> wrote:
Ultimate Balancer is too much of a good thing for an IR horse - if you would have called the help line of D&H ( really nice people and knowledgable) they would have told you that. If you want to stick to D&H as a brand, their 'Daily Vits&Mins' would be the product to opt for when you want to be sure your horse gets a good level of vitamins and minerals.
Another good product would be Formula4Feet by Equilife.
astrid Noordhoek <astrid.noordhoek@...>
Thank you, Eleanor.
So this is a specific version of the Ultimate Balancer?
It seems to me that it is not commercially available? You have to demand
for it specifically? Is it internationally available?
I found lots of info about this balancer, but then it isn't called formula
2. And then there is no mention of it being fe free, only sugar and starch
free.
Thank you.
Astrid
nrc 0811
cu/ir 0312
nat 0912
So this is a specific version of the Ultimate Balancer?
It seems to me that it is not commercially available? You have to demand
for it specifically? Is it internationally available?
I found lots of info about this balancer, but then it isn't called formula
2. And then there is no mention of it being fe free, only sugar and starch
free.
Thank you.
Astrid
nrc 0811
cu/ir 0312
nat 0912
--- In EquineCushings@..., astrid Noordhoek <astrid.noordhoek@...> wrote:
<http://www.equimins-online.com/vits-mins/713-equimins-advance-concentrate-pellets.html>
You have to call and specifically ask for formula 2. Can also ask them about shipping/availability.
Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Co-owner
Feb 2001
Wrong company. The manufacturer is Equimins.
Thank you, Eleanor.
So this is a specific version of the Ultimate Balancer?
<http://www.equimins-online.com/vits-mins/713-equimins-advance-concentrate-pellets.html>
You have to call and specifically ask for formula 2. Can also ask them about shipping/availability.
Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Co-owner
Feb 2001
l.shellard@btopenworld.com
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and help. Problem with hay analysis is that I buy hay from different suppliers as my previous supplier was sadly killed earlier in the year - I get it from where ever I can. Once I've stablished a regular supplier again I'll get an anylysis done.
Will give Equiminis Advanced a try.
Very much appreciated,
Lesley UK.
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Will give Equiminis Advanced a try.
Very much appreciated,
Lesley UK.
--- In EquineCushings@..., "drkellon" <drkellon@...> wrote:
Equimins Advanced Concentrate Metabalance formula 2 is iron free and formulated for UK forages with input from graduates of my NRC Plus nutrition course. Until you can get a hay analysis, that's what I would use.
Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Co-owner
Feb 2001
astrid Noordhoek <astrid.noordhoek@...>
Hi All, Eleanor,
thank you for replying.
Yes, I ment the Equimins Balancer nr 2.
I cannot for whatever reason reply via the digest and have a hard time
accessing the files of the yahoo groups.
Cannot delet files, e.g.
Astrid
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, astrid Noordhoek <
astrid.noordhoek@...> wrote:
thank you for replying.
Yes, I ment the Equimins Balancer nr 2.
I cannot for whatever reason reply via the digest and have a hard time
accessing the files of the yahoo groups.
Cannot delet files, e.g.
Astrid
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, astrid Noordhoek <
astrid.noordhoek@...> wrote:
Thank you, Eleanor.
So this is a specific version of the Ultimate Balancer?
It seems to me that it is not commercially available? You have to demand
for it specifically? Is it internationally available?
I found lots of info about this balancer, but then it isn't called formula
2. And then there is no mention of it being fe free, only sugar and starch
free.
Thank you.
Astrid
nrc 0811
cu/ir 0312
nat 0912