Hi there...in my quest to maximize Malika's and the other horses in my care, I'm always looking for a good pro/prebiotic product...but so far, this group has generally said that there is not enough mg/g of pro/prebiotic in most products to make a difference vs the expense. I've noted that in some cases the product RationPlus has been advised.
So SmartPak has a new product and as I was looking at it, wanted the experts opinion as to whether this product has the levels of elements necessary to really benefit??? Here's the product analysis off the Smartpk website on "SmartGut Ultra Pellets"

Declared Ingredients
Ingredient Per Serving Per Pound
Active Ingredients per 80 g:
GastraVert™ (a proprietary blend of Sea Buckthorn, L-Glutamine, Aloe Vera, Pectin, Lecithin) 17,000 mg
Calcium Carbonate 5,000 mg
Hydrolyzed Collagen 3,000 mg
Magnesium Carbonate 3,000 mg
Deglycyrrized Licorice 2,000 mg
Magnesium Silicate 2,000 mg
Fructooligosaccharides (FOS) 1,500 mg
Mannanoligosaccharides (MOS) 1,500 mg
Glycine 1,000 mg
Gamma Oryzanol 600 mg
Slippery Elm 350 mg
Marshmallow Root Extract 300 mg
Sodium Copper Chlorophyllin 112 mg
Orthosilic Acid (Silica) 100 mg
Lactobacillus Acidophilus 750 million CFU

Other Ingredients
Inactive Ingredients: Alfalfa Meal, Corn Distillers Dried Grains with Solubles, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtillis Fermentation Extract, Fenugreek Seed, Grape Pomace (Ground Grape Seed and Skin), Lignin Sulfonate, Maltodextrin, Propionic Acid, Vegetable Oil (cold pressed).


Leanne & Malika

--- In EquineCushings@..., "LeanneE" wrote:

"SmartGut Ultra Pellets"

This product concentrates on the stomach. The pre/pro biotic ingredients are very low dose.

Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Co-owner
Feb 2001

I have been using Equilite PrePro. It's expensive but seemed to get my pony's gut back on track.


Hoping this is a good go - to. Any comments?




PrePro is a Supplemental Source of Direct Fed Microbials,
Enzymes and Fructooligosaccharide.


ACTIVE INGREDIENTS PER 1 OZ


Total Microbial Count n
10 Billion CFU per 10 gm serving (4.54 x 10
11 CFU/lb) (Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus plantarum,
Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, Bifidobacterium
thermophilum and Bifidobacterium longum.)


GUARANTEED ENZYME ACTIVITY PER 10 GRAM SERVING
Amylase (A. Oryzae) n
1,190 µg Starch Hydrolyzed per Minute
Protease (A. Oryzae) n
160 µg Amino Acids Hydrolyzed per Minute
Cellulase (A. Oryzae) n
65 µg Cellulose Breakdown per Minute
Lipase (A. Oryzae) n
50 µg Triglycerides Hydrolyzed per Minute


Lisa in VA





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Wanted to add the reason behind the Group recommendation of Ration Plus and Forco has to do with independent testing of the products to show that they work.

Some horses do not like Forco because of the yeast.

Lots more in the message archives.


Nancy C in NH
ECIR Moderator 2003

NewEnglandEquineBalance@...

are these pro or pre biotics? and should I give them to a foundered pony 200lb
Mary
6/12
Mich
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Hi Mary,
Which products specifically are you referring to? There is no blanket recommendation to feed pre/probiotics just because you have a founder situation. They can be helpful if there are digestive issues such as loose manure/diarrhea, excessive gas, poor feed utilization.

Lavinia, Datne, George Too and Peanut
jan 05, RI
EC Support Team

--- In EquineCushings@..., Mary Horbianski wrote:

are these pro or pre biotics? and should I give them to a foundered pony 200lb

If you are talking about Ration Plus and Forco, they are prebiotics. There's no reason to give them unless the horse has a digestive problem.

Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com
EC Co-owner
Feb 2001