laminitis flare up...no reason..??
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bigwhitevan2002
I will attempt to make this short and to the point, I cannot even attempt to post my case history it has been years since I have plugged into the group, a good thing as this means my pony has been doing great, a bit guilty that I no longer contribute.
if anyone rememberrs me .... Pony is 30+ year old shetland, IR no cushings( diagnosed was tested ), been IR for 10 years, was kept on the sterrets/midvalley feed exclusivly until I was no longer able to attain it, then switched to LMF low carb complete, been on this exclusivily for 2+ years, no problem, taped Muzzle pasture turn out in august/septmeber , no problems .. been the picture of health would never know how old she is...spunky, healthy , shiney etc... for the past 3 months she has had off and on heat and soreness, she has no access to anything other than her complete feed and some alfalfa cubes as treats. she is barefoot trimmed every 6 weeks.. she gets Beet pulp to carry her magOx, Chasteberry powder, and flax , she has no access to any other feed, is kept in doors in a large stall 20X10 this winter . no outside turnout weather is gross but arena turn out and walks when weather permits and she can walk comfortably. I have no idea why we are having such flare ups...BO called this morning and said she can hardly walk and has hot fronts..What on EARTH? Our weather has been just plain stupid, for the pacific NW very cold for us snow ice rain could this cause all of this , I just cant think of anything I am doing wrong, or need to fix, ....? Thanks for any advice ideas or a quick note of support for the prodigal member. Julie Allen October 2006 |
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bigwhitevan2002
PS.. Pony real name is' LIL Britches' in the case history I will attempt to find her... Julie Allen oct 2006 |
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When was she last tested for PPID? ---In EquineCushings@..., <bigwhitevan2002@...> wrote: Pony is 30+ year old shetland, IR no cushings( diagnosed was tested ), been IR for 10 years, |
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bigwhitevan2002
Hi again Nancy, ummm. sheepish grin,Just pulled out my paperwork.. she was last tested for PPID in september 2007 , ACTH 35 Reference range 9-35 , we attributed to seasonal high, No problems since then no blood work either, no flares proper shedding in summer..etc... Ummm. now the problem seems kind of obvious. UGH>>> thought I had dodged that bullet , so are we thinking I need to do the obvious and test ACTH go from there...( just slap me upside the head) Julie Oregon 2006 |
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Hi Julie, Not sure it is working,but try this: http://www.sportshorses.com/cases/bigwhitevan2002.LilBritches.htm > PS.. Pony real name is' LIL Britches' in the case history I will attempt to find her... Lorna
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bigwhitevan2002
Thanks Lorna, its not working have tried several times , the sight is a little different then when I last checked in, amazing to see the huge number of members.!! .the only thing I found was her pics i posted in the photos section, https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/photos/albums/2121210764 will keep looking to post her case history but i havent updated it at all since the blood reslults posted above in first posting today. no escuses for this delinquincy except life, and she has been the picture of perfection for years.. any how, thinking the next course of action is to have the Vet out to pull some blood , will go back in the files and re familar myself with proper protocol on such...is pergolide still the deal??? so much to catch up on I guess.thought chasteberry would give her a boost just started her on it about a month ago. Did find my very first posting DEC 2006 so I am Julie from oregon dec 2006 |
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bigwhitevan2002
Hi Lorna, i did try that several ways and its not coming up on my computer, browser,e mail, living room floor,etc... no where.. things are very different on the sight now, going to take some time for me to catch up... am still trying ot find Ponys case history, tho it wont be much help as I havent done any blood work or updating in several years.. Julie oregon DEC 2006 ( did find my first post.) |
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Hi Julie, >its not working have tried several times , I couldn't get it to work,either. I did find case histories for a couple of your other ponies.Can send links if you like. .>the only thing I found was her pics i posted in the photos section, https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/photos/albums/2121210764 Try this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EquineCushings/photos/album/2121210764/pic/list If you type bigwhitevan2002 into the Search Conversations box on the web page,you will bring up a lot of your old posts.There are a number (from 2007?) about L'il Britches.Might help you get reorganized.You have always kept good records. Lorna
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bigwhitevan2002
okay went through all past messages and found all my paper work......here goes 2006 attained pony free because she was unwanted an lame 2007 told she was cronic founder and keep her off pasture and feed small amounts of local hay. 2007 discovered EC group.got educated started protocol 2007-diet of soaked hay , mag/ox , minerals balanced by the balance babes 2008 fed only sterrets/midvally grass hay pellets and minerals. 2011 lost the sterrets switched to triple crown safe starch .. ... reacted with soreness and heat.. 2011 soaking hay again until something can be found. 2012 switch to LMF low carb complete ,,,no reaction does very well on it fed only LMF up to this point with mag/ox and flax. BLOOD WORK November 2006 insulin 266 ...ref range 29-179 pmol/L glucose 85....ref range 75-115 mg/dl September 2007 insulin 131 ref range 29-179 pmol/L glucose 3.1 ref range 4.2-6.4 mmol/L ACTH 35 ref range 9-35 pg/ml march 2010 insulin 1619 ref range < 300 pmol/L Pony was in acute laminitis attack , very little rotation, found out nice people were feeding her all glucose 5.4 ref range 4.3-6.9 mmol/L sorts of treats and goodies , vet put her on thyrol/L for 4 months and as I read the report he put her on ACTH 4.1 ref range 2.0-10.0 pmol/L pergolide .5 mg which i do not remember ever getting or administering ?? tho looking at this now probably because I knew the problem was neighbors not cushings.. that was the last problems we had with her she has been the picture of health until the last 2-3 months no diet change , we did let her on pasture taped muzzle a lot this summer, and tossed her hay every now and then ( untested) just because she likes it stopped that practice in october at the first sign of soreness , .. QUESTION..why the big difference in her ACTH from 2007 to 2010..?? seasonal high? I hope this is okay in leiu of a case history, I wrote it twice because I accidently deleted it the first time trying to fix spelling errors, will not try to fix errors this time so as not to make same mistake. any suggestions , Ideas etc are greatly appreciated. Julie oregon 2006 |
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>I hope this is okay in leiu of a case history,
Hi Julie, Good work. The thing is that without all your information in a case history it will not be readily available for the volunteers to study.It will remain in this message and soon become lost,unless a volunteer has the time needed to search for it. The other thing is that the information in a case history is far easier to read/follow ,than it is in paragraph form. Please try to find the time to fill out a CH,and then add its link to your signature.Then anyone needing to see it can go directly there. Lorna
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bigwhitevan2002
will do , I will just start all over with a new one, Pony is in acute laminitis today , rocked back, cant walk, gave her .5 of bute, should I remove all feed and go to soaking hay , ??? Julie |
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dnlf@...
Hi Julie,
Here are three links to case histories you had posted when the Sporthorse histories were active: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20100119142414/http://www.sportshorses.com/cases/bigwhitevan2002.LilBritches.htm http://wayback.archive.org/web/20100124043017/http://www.sportshorses.com/cases/bigwhitevan2002@... http://wayback.archive.org/web/20100119092954/http://www.sportshorses.com/cases/bigwhitevan2002@... This is the link for the Wayback Archives where the case histories are located: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sportshorses.com/cases/* We recommend you download the case history from Wayback as what is available there changes regularly and you may not be able to find the info in the future. This is where many, tho not all, of the histories that were located in the original SportHorse site can be found. If you check there and don't find your hoistory, please retry periodically as the info changes and case histories seem to appear and disappear. Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut Jan 05, RI EC Support Team .the only thing I found was her pics i posted in the photos section, https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/photos/albums/2121210764 |
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hi thanks, I did find those in the way back machine thing but nothing comes of it accept advertizements to prdcucts for horses~ OR~ it tells me it is forbidden... The one that I did find there was for Koko who passed years ago and wasn't my pony just a friends.but regardless my computer does not come up with anything from those links... Thanks for taking the time to hunt those down for me anyways. Julie We recommend you download the case history from Wayback as what is available there changes regularly a .the only thing I found was her pics i posted in the photos section, https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/photos/albums/2121210764 |
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dnlf@...
Hi Julie,
I put the old case history in your new folder: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Julie%20in%20Oregon/ Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut Jan 05, RI EC Support Team https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/photos/albums/2121210764 |
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dnlf@...
Hi Julie,
Well that's weird. When I click on the specific link for each history it takes me to that history. Do you go to the Wayback Archives on the Archives link? Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut Jan 05, RI EC Support Team |
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bigwhitevan2002
It worked!!!! the one for LIL britches did anyways, the other two still say this IP address has been banned.. Thanks for putting it into my folder.in EC8..!!!!. Sorry I am such a ignoramous with computers.. Julie Oregon ---In EquineCushings@..., <dnlf@...> wrote: Hi Julie, Well that's weird. When I click on the specific link for each history it takes me to that history. Do you go to |
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dnlf@...
Hi Julie,
You're welcome. Not your fault. The Wayback can be odd to use. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I'm sure someone smarter with computers could tell us why but I just wait and retry at another time and it usually works eventually. Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut Jan 05, RI EC Support Team |
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