Anhidrosis and One AC


kimshu92026@...
 

My IR Icelandic horse has anhidrosis and I've been giving her One AC. It does help her sweat, but, I have discovered when I ride her that she sweats the best  if I've given her the One AC a couple of hours before we go for a ride.

Does anyone know if you can give One AC on an "as needed" basis, or is it best for some reason to give it daily on a regular schedule. For the most part, it's not too hot where I live in San Diego County and she doesn't seem to really need it if I'm not riding her that day.

Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
May 2008



kimshu92026@...
 

Does anybody have any idea about the One AC?     Dr. Kellon?




Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


PapBallou@...
 

Hi Kim -

I have no experience with anhydrosis nor OneAC.  Did you see the folder in the files about it?  Also an archive search may turn up more personal experiences and opinions.

Linda
EC Primary Response
West Coast
May 2004


kimshu92026@...
 

Yes, Linda,  I've seen the info in the files and people have mentioned just using it in the summer and not the winter, but, I was wanting more specific info about whether it needs to build up in their system for a certain amount of time or if I could use it sporadically "as needed".  I was wondering if using it "as needed" would throw things off in their bodies, etc.

Thanks,

Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


Lorna Cane
 




Hi Kim,

Go here.Click on Instructions




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kimshu92026@...
 

I'm sorry, I do know what the instructions say. I guess my question is not very clear. 

After using One AC for a while, it appears to me that it leaves their system in a short time. If I give my horse the daily dose in the afternoon the day before I take her on a trail ride in the morning, she doesn't sweat very much on the ride. If I give her a dose of it a couple of hours before I take her on a trail ride, she sweats much more.

So, my question was whether I needed to give it to her on a daily basis so she has some in her system all the time in order for it to work or if I could just give it to her on the days that I am going to ride her or if it's especially hot and I want to make sure she doesn't get stressed.

I have read where people don't use it in the winter, but, living in Southern CA, I need it year round for riding.

The instructions make it sound like it needs to be given on a daily basis, but, I didn't know if that was just for marketing or not.  I don't really know what the ingredients do and how it works over all.

It's not that big of a deal to give it daily and then make sure I give her a dose before we ride, but, it's expensive and I just wondered if I could cut back on giving it daily.

Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


kimshu92026@...
 

P.S.  I do know what the ingredients are from the label, but, I don't know how they work in the body and whether it would be harmful to not give it every day.


Lorna Cane
 

Hi Kim,

I was hoping their instructions would help:

Instructions
For optimal results, the manufacturer recommends that horses using One AC for the first time begin with 1 teaspoon administered twice daily. To set up twice daily administration for the first month in SmartPaks, use the Custom Dose feature and choose 1 scoop (1 teaspoon) “both AM and PM”. After the first month, you may change the dosage to 2 teaspoons once daily, which is the SmartPak Maintenance Dose.

If you are already administering One AC, use the Maintenance Dose. If your horse does not fall in the weight range of 950-1100 lbs, the Custom Dose feature also allows for adjusting the administration amount. Please call us at 1-800-461-8898 if you require assistance – we are happy to help!

Feeding Directions: One AC is weight dependent. Average size horse, 950-1100 lbs, one teaspoon twice daily (AM & PM). Horses over 1100 lbs, add 1/2 teaspoon for every 100 lbs. over maximum weight.
Horses 600-900 lbs 1 1/2 teaspoons daily (3/4 AM - 3/4 PM). 300-600 lbs one teaspoonful daily. Miniature horses respond well to 1/2 teaspoonful daily.

One teaspoonful = 2.35 g (.102 oz)
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Maybe give the company a call?

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kimshu92026@...
 

Sorry about not signing my post.  I thought of giving the company a call, but, I figured they would tell me to use it every day so they could sell more of their product.

Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


Gayel Ambrose <gayel@...>
 

Hi:

I used One AC in previous years and gave it every day as directed. If they are not sweating they need this every day. If you only give when you ride it is like a yoyo effect. The problem is there 24/7 not just when you ride. It worked great for me the first year but not as well after that.

Gayel and Spirit 2014
Naples, Florida


kimshu92026@...
 

I'm sorry, Gayel, it's so hard to give every detail when I'm writing. My horse sweats a little bit and is fine when not being ridden unless it is extremely hot and humid, which we do get occasionally in Southern CA. She is even fine when I ride her for an hour, but, if I trailer her for a longer ride, she doesn't sweat enough to cool herself off after the first hour unless I give her the One AC before we go.

At this point, I give it every day and will continue to do so unless I learn otherwise.

Thanks,

Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


 

Hi, Kim. I have a 21 yo PPID mare who barely sweats except between the hind legs. She is not in work but is clearly heat intolerant, hiding from the sun all day. I give her 1 AC 2X daily whenever temps are above about 73. During the winter, I give it daily because I sometimes blanket. I've observed its effects are short lived, maybe 12 hrs. One AC allows her to feel very slightly damp in high temps. 

Cass for Satra
Oct 12
Sonoma County, Calif

---In EquineCushings@..., <kimshu92026@...> wrote :

My IR Icelandic horse has anhidrosis and I've been giving her One AC. It does help her sweat, but, I have discovered when I ride her that she sweats the best  if I've given her the One AC a couple of hours before we go for a ride.

Does anyone know if you can give One AC on an "as needed" basis, or is it best for some reason to give it daily on a regular schedule. For the most part, it's not too hot where I live in San Diego County and she doesn't seem to really need it if I'm not riding her that day.


kimshu92026@...
 

Thanks Cass. Those sound like good guidelines to go by.


Kim and Nanna
Southern CA
2008


Gayel Ambrose <gayel@...>
 

Hi:

Best of luck to you and your horse, but I have to say keeping the product constant in their system I think helps in the long run. My horse is 30 and we ride almost every day which in the South Florida heat really sucks.  He has gotten much better over the years and acupuncture has helped the most.  He used to be bone dry, but now we can ride and he is much better.  I actually bought him a swamp cooler which runs outside his stall and blows the cold air all the way to the back of his stall so he has air conditioning once it gets really hot here.  Running a fan circulating the hot air really did not do anything to hep him.  He loves his swamp cooler,

I did talk to the man who developed One AC and was told for my horse I should keep him on it year round, which I did for a couple years but since them I have gone another route which really seems to be working for Spirit.


alikern@...
 

My experience has been very good - using 2x a day at the rec'd doses (1) for horses who aren't sweating when weather turns warm in the Spring due to unusually warm winter -- after a few weeks, no longer need  (2) horses needing antihistamines  - esp. hydroxyzine/cetirizine for seasonal allergies that seem to stop them from sweating ...  the antihist.s are usually needed April-Oct so they get ONE AC for the same period  (3) an occasional horse who needs seasonally - don't know why but it works fine