Need help very sore footed 12 year old PPID gelding.
Hi
Jasper is very sore footed was trimmed/shod the 28tth of april,farrier said putting on shoes with wedge pads would help,well he walked of still sore. He hasn't improved much since he was done,think because of foot soreness he's now body sore also. He's been very crabby for the last week or better now. He was sore footed prior to getting trimmed/shod. Did not like having shoes nailed on at all,so was a bit naughty.
Should i be giving him some bute or previcox for a few days? also he's on Lung EQ 1 scoop twice a day no signs of heaves,so could i go to just 1 scoop a day now?
He does have a history of ulcers also being treated for lyme dease will be on doxy till july so 4 months of treatment. Have pictures of trim in my album will get picture of shoeing here in a little bit and up load them into my album.
Thanks,
Corrine and Jasper
MN 4/2014
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http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/photos/albums/1622081710
>He was sore footed prior to getting trimmed/shod. Did not like having shoes nailed on at all,so was a bit naughty.
Hi Corrine,
If he were mine I'd be inclined to remove the shoes ,unless there's a very good reason no to.Would like to hear what better 'hoof' people than I am weigh in here.
Lorna
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Hi Lorna
Have vet coming tuesday to do xrays, farrier will be here then too,so if shoe's need to come off it will happen then. He's bedded down in deep saw dust/shaving mix seems to help relieve his soreness have him stalled for the night. If i have to i can pull shoes ,would rather not he's going to be less then great to deal with,not even wanting to pick up feet tonight now.
Could feel some heat in both fronts,so is that abcesses or laminitis ? Do i give him some bute to help him out with his soreness? Had alot of bruising on his fronts,white hoof had a ring of bruising just 1/4 of the way down hoof wall. Dark hoof had bruising just harder to see. So is the bruising a concern?
Thanks,
Corrine and Jasper
MN 4/2014
http://groups.yahoo,com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Corrine%20and%20Jasper
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/photos/albums/1622081710
>Could feel some heat in both fronts,so is that abcesses or laminitis ?
My guess would be laminitis,if both feet are involved.
>Do i give him some bute to help him out with his soreness? Had alot of bruising on his fronts,white hoof had a ring of bruising just 1/4 of the way down hoof wall. Dark hoof had bruising just harder to see. So is the bruising a concern?
I can't get into your CH right now,thanks to the brilliant Yahoo engineers,and can't remember what he is/has been getting.
I'll try again later.
Lorna
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Good that the xrays are scheduled and that the farrier and vet will be there at the same time. Getting the xrays will show exactly where the bony column is in relation to the hoof capsule. As Jasper was not happy with the shoes/dental impression material a few weeks ago, it isn't surprising that he isn't liking it now. I do not understand using a wedge and impression material only under the rear of the foot when the heels appear too high to begin with as this will only raise them further. The toes are still too long and too high in relation to the heel height that was trimmed before putting the shoes back on. The frogs were aggressively pared down to living tissue so would likely be tender, making it more difficult for Japser to weight the backs of his feet properly.
Hammering nails into sore feet will usually result in a non-cooperative horse as it is causing more discomfort. To pick up a foot means he needs to place even more weight onto the opposite, already sore, limb so he's not going to be too willing to do that. The deep bedding helps because he can position his feet in the most comfortable way by digging in to change the pressure points.
Bruising is an indication that something is/was wrong. You can get bruising from external sources (like hitting a rock), internal damage (like laminitis) or from mechanics (trim issues). In the photos, it appears as if it is concentrated in the rear quarter of the hoof. That would make sense as his heels are severely under run and putting pressure onto the walls in places it shouldn't be. It appears as if the hoof is smaller at the bottom than at the top, like an inverted cone. This is the reverse of what should be happening and it is causing serious constrictions in the functionality of his hooves.
If this is abscesses, you don't want to use bute as that will interfere with their maturation. Plus, Jasper has a history of ulcers and stomach sensitivity to bute so unless he is down and not eating/drinking I wouldn't want to add that risk to the mix.
Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
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