Final Post


ThePitchforkPrincess@...
 

Hi Carol,
Wow.  Thanks for posting this!  It is great to hear from long time members about their success. Without Dr. Kellon's protocol of pergolide dosage being based on ACTH control, the groups DDT approach, and  members contributing information to the Pergolide Dosage Database,  there is no way the vets from the past 10 years would have written pergolide Rx at the dosages needed to keep my mare from foundering. 
 When you said: 
 When I got here it was focus and pin down the facts time. Case history finally opened my eyes. 
as Archivist, it made my day - no month!  

This is just one of the many benefits of a case history can do.  When members record their initial diets, medication levels and blood work results and then keep going by listing the changes and showing the changes in blood work, we prove what works - to those willing to take the time to understand and see it.  

Fortunately for new members today, there are many long time members like you who took the time to keep and share their records.  Seeing is Believing - but the seeing part is sometimes the biggest hurdle.   Not just for new members but for vets too.  However with out the records for seeing, there would be no proof of truth to believe in. 

So thank YOU Carol for your post.  Thank YOU you for posting and maintaining a long and detailed case history but mostly thank you for leaving that valuable case history in the files for others to learn from after the loss of Josh.  

OH and also thank you for recent updating of Josh's pergolide information in the Pergolide Dosage Database!  

- ​LeeAnne, Newmarket, Ontario

ECIR Archivist 03/2004

 

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Carol
 

     I want to add that my life got a lot less overwhelming when I joined this group, with treating a Cushing's horse that the vets were failing at and contradicting each other. My head was spinning with the rotating advice from each of the previous treatment schools of thought. When I got here it was focus and pin down the facts time. Case history finally opened my eyes. Writing it down and seeing the special feeding that I had gotten accustomed to as normal over the years showed me how unusual his condition was - to be skin and bones on that amount of food and additives. And the prescribed senior feeds were the worst thing and had to go. He got better from each thing I followed here and lived a more comfortable life. Cushing's didin't even take him out, EPM did later. Compare that to before this group's help, he was going to be put down for Cushing's failure alone. 
     With a vet who would tell you to quit the most successful Cushing's treatment and research group of all time, I hope you don't go through what I did with outdated modes of treatment that just take your money and stall to keep you their client until the inevitable day of put down. 




janieclougher@...
 

Hi, K - I am sorry to hear this.  You are correct - the information IS overwhelming at first. A lot of us approach it like eating an elephant - one  bite at a time.

If you only take one thing away from your time here, it should be that the approach to management is Diagnosis, Diet, Exercise and Trim.  The information will always be here in the files any time you would like to take a look; and there is also very good information on the website:  ecirhorse.org , which you can look at any time, without needing to be a member of the list.

I am truly sorry that you feel that there were "flat out arguments"  I saw the posts rather as trying to give information.  The internet can be quite difficult in the sense that one cannot hear intonation or tone of voice, and hence what looks like "argument" can be merely an attempt to educate.

I am even more sorry that your vet advised you leave!  The ecirhorse website has a ton of information suitable for veterinary reading, without having to join the main group.

On this list, it is truly our main effort to help owners manage their horses as best they can.  It is about the horse.  Not everyone can do everything that is advised here, of course, because everyone is in a different situation. People just do the  best they can.

Good luck to you and Teshan, and big hugs to Teshan.





---In EquineCushings@..., <kleonaptra@...> wrote :

Back in April when bloods were taken my vet advised me to leave the group. She said the overload of information was overwealming and that Teshan is well managed. I am now taking that advice. I have experienced worse anxiety over the past few days than I have in 5 years. 



Thankyou very much and good luck with all of your ponies. 


I apologise if this double posted I lost my internet connection.


K

Western Sydney NSW Australia

Teshan 3/2/2015

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/search/photos?query=Teshan#zax/albums_629885947 (photo link)

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Kim%20and%20Teshan/



kleonaptra@...
 

Back in April when bloods were taken my vet advised me to leave the group. She said the overload of information was overwealming and that Teshan is well managed. I am now taking that advice. I have experienced worse anxiety over the past few days than I have in 5 years. 


 I believe many people in the group do not feel the need for every extreme recommendation yet do not feel the need to share it with the group. I tried to be honest but in the end I could not keep up my spirit for the argument. Its simply not possible for someone who doesnt live with the horse or see it everyday to know what is best for it. Recommendations and encouragement would have been welcome, wide generalizations, flat out arguments and sarcastic edged comments help no one. 


I will peroidically post updates and photos about Teshan on my blog the Various Excerpts of Angst hosted on Orble, and on my public facebook page Crescent Moon Lodge and Halfway House. 


Thankyou very much and good luck with all of your ponies. 


I apologise if this double posted I lost my internet connection.


K

Western Sydney NSW Australia

Teshan 3/2/2015

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/search/photos?query=Teshan#zax/albums_629885947 (photo link)

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/echistory8/files/Kim%20and%20Teshan/