This is a bit OT so I'll keep it brief and you can move to EC Hoof for further discussion.

Your front foot radiographs show good bone alignment, no evidence of laminitis and OK palmar angle. However, the feet are dished because of a toe flare from overly long toe that is putting breakover too far forward and causing/contributing to the active ringbone changes. In a physiologically  trimmed foot, the distance from edge of P3 to the dorsal hoof wall on lateral will be about the same as the distance from tip of P3 to the ground and tip of P3 to the tip of the toe.  That tip of P3 to tip of toe distance is greatly increased.

Eleanor in PA
www.drkellon.com   2 for 1 continued until January 31

EC Co-owner
Feb 2001

Hi Laura

Not Lavinia here, but wanted to address your jherb question.

IME, jherb over all can help the horse move better.  Don't believe it would directly affect heel soreness caused by trimming issues, ie., under run heel, long toe, lack of  digital cushion development, distal descent, level plane coffin bone, etc.....

Taking them of the jherb is a precaution from "an abundance of caution" ((Dr Kellon).  If you can do it several days before hand that would be where I would go.

You had asked about doasge. Recommend start with 1/2 tsp 2xs per dy, given 20 minutes before feeding.  Check his gums and tongue prior to start.  You want to increase dose until you see obvious pinker color.

I just posted P's most recent xrays of December 9, 2015 that shows what this farrier did. I am trying to figure out how to upload xrays taken from 2013/14 from my hard drive.

Hi Laura,

Here's an excerpt from the files:

Dosage
There is wide individual variation in effective dose, with horses often more sensitive to the effects than
ponies, older horses more sensitive.

Starting dose:
– Older horses, ½ tsp twice a day
– Younger horses and ponies: ¾ tsp twice a day
Jiaogulan should be given twice a day, 20 minutes before feeding anything in the morning, preferably
at least an hour between dosing in the afternoon/evening and when the horse last ate. Again, do not
feed for 20 minutes after the second dose of the day. Most horses enjoy the taste and will lick up a
paste of Jiaogulan and water from a bowl. If not, can syringe it in, or put it in a tiny mouthful of beet
pulp or flax.

Signs an effective dose has been reached include:
 *Pinker color to the gums and tongue (check this before you start giving it)
 *Brighter, more alert attitude
* More energy, spontaneous movement
 *Improved foot comfort, lower pulses

If these changes are not seen within 3 days, increase the dose in ¼ tsp increments.

More info in this file:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EquineCushings/files/Jiaogulan%2C%20Nitric%20Oxide%20Support%2C%20AAKG%20%26%20Supps/

Scroll down to Jiaogulan Doses and Precautions.

HTH.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team

Hi Laura,

As you are asking about trouble with P's feet, it would be extremely helpful if you would add the latest xrays and current hoof pix to his photo album. Without those, we are flying totally blind.

Flares and wall separation go hand-in-hand. 3" of good, solid growth beneath the coronary band is a considerable amount of healthy foot - shouldn't be much more below that. If there is, that would go a long way toward explaining the problems you are seeing.

Lavinia, Dante, George Too and Peanut
Jan 05, RI
EC Support Team

I just now purchased J from My Best Horse. Would standing wrapping his legs at night help during cold weather?

Hi Nancy,

Why does he or you feel more hoof growth is needed at this time?
Nancy C in NH
ECIR Group Mod
February 2003

He's absolutely right that hoof growth slows in winter. It is a combination of less/no exercise and colder temperatures decreasing blood flow.  The oats have nothing to do with this.  You could try Jiaogulan to counteract it.