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How many PPID horses still rideable
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grandmalynn44
I’m not sure if there is information in the pergolide database that indicates how many horses on pergolide are still being ridden and at what age. Bodie is 24 and still being ridden. However, I wonder if some of his lack if energy is due to age or symptoms of his PPID being not controlled well enough.
-- Lynn McKechnie N. California, May, 2011 Mica: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Lynn%20and%20Mica |
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Hi Lynn,
As a horse owner whose horses have lived to be in their thirties and early forties, I don't see 24 as being old. If it were me,I would test ACTH again. I think it hasn't been tested since last January, when the results were good,but when,also, they weren't being affected by seasonal rise. His lack of energy may not be from this, bit I would start there. -- Lorna Cane
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grandmalynn44
Thanks Lorna. It’s good to have the older horse age perspective. I did post a recent case history a couple of days ago. Bodie’s most recent ACTH in early September was 38.7 (9-35) when he was on 4.5 mg pergolide. I have increased it to 6.0 mg trying to keep pace with the seasonal rise. I know there are older horses living their retirement years comfortably “out to pasture” so to speak, but were your older horses being ridden in their thirties and early forties? And if so, how aggressively? I see Bodie aging in different ways and I’m just wondering how much to reasonably expect from him. Thanks for your input.
-- Lynn McKechnie N. California, May, 2011 Mica: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Lynn%20and%20Mica |
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Hi Lynn,
Sorry.This has happened before. I read your CH on my tablet,and the most recent entry was last Jan. I'm assuming I need to be on my PC for accurate readings.Love technology. My horses were not being ridden aggressively. Some were still working at their Hippotherapy jobs, but this was in no way strenuous work. Some were being hacked out in the country,but not galloping,although they could have. Others here,though,can tell you about their older horses still being ridden into their thirties,and thriving. If it were me ,I'd be exploring other areas that might be slowing him down....although ,sorry, I can't remember his level of work. Maybe hoof probs ? Maybe saddle issues? I'm just guessing, because still for me,24 is not old. In my area,though, I learned a couple of years ago that 18 is considered old! Biting tongue! -- Lorna Cane
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Hi Lynn
I don't know if this helps but my Paso Fino is 22. Saturday– 1 year, 7 months and 8 days following his diagnosis of PPID/IR in February 2018 (ACTH 221 pg/ml) and following laminitis in September 2018, Relevante and I went on our first trail ride. He did really well…I kept him to a walk (and boy was that hard – he wanted to go!) we kept to the most level parts of the trail – though there were some gentle inclines and a creek crossing. We rode for just under an hour. He wore his Cavallo Trek boots with pads. I checked him again today...no soreness. I'm riding him Thursday and trail riding again on Saturday. Next week i'll start letting him gait for perhaps 5 minutes or so and then build up from there. We plan to be able to do approximately 2-hour trail rides with moderate hills and creek crossings by next summer which is what we were doing before he got sick. On the 26th we're participating in a Halloween costume contest at our barn. I think he wants to be Batman. -- Lynn Beavercreek, Ohio March 2018 Relevante Case History Relevante Photo Album Ω |
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ferne fedeli
Lynn, I rode my Icelandic until a little over a year ago and I stopped mainly because he ran off with me because his donkey buddy was calling for him. He was 24 and I was 78. So he definitely was not having a lack of energy!!! Ha! I rode a few more times after that episode, but decided it was time to hang it up before I got hurt.
-- Ferne Fedeli 2007 No. California Regional Members Database Coordinator - see who is near you Add your contact information if you want to help out/meet ECIR members in your area.
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Sherry Morse
Hi Lynn, My mare was DX with PPID at 29. At that point in time she had already been semi-retired for a while (meaning she was getting ridden at a walk & trot no more than 2 times a week). The last time I rode her she was over 31 and she was jigging sideways down the driveway on the way back. At 24 Bodie IMO should still be in his prime and I would be looking at how well controlled his PPID is or if there's another issue going on if he is lacking energy. Thanks, PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet/Scutch%20Case%20History.pdf |
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Hah! so you and your steed, Ferne, between the two of you topped the 100 year mark. That is on my bucket list. In two more years I will make it, perhaps only to sit on my lovely mare for one last time. This thread is so inspirational to me.
-- - Frances C. December 2017, Washington & California Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Frances%20and%20Phoenix Phoenix's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=12382 |
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ironic_acres@...
My PPID boy is ridden or worked with three times a week. Up until a month ago, we rode anywhere, anytime any type trail. He developed symptoms of Lymes and is currently in treatment for that. Just got permission from vet to start riding him slowly and on the flat again. We will be back at it tomorrow!
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Bonnie
My Welsh pony is 21 years old, rideable and still driven with a pony cart. He was diagnosed PPID at age 12. His pergolide dose is 24 mg. There is no lack of energy: canters uphill to barn when called, sliding stop at the door.
-- Bonnie and Lad
North Ontario
Dec 2008
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Kathy Thomas
So cool to read this post. I thought perhaps I was the old lady in this group. I am 73 and Donna is 19. With the help and expert advice of this group, I am looking forward to a few more years yet. It was looking rather dismal until a friend pointed me in the direction of ECIR. We had a great ride yesterday,
-- Kathy 2017 and Donna Harrowsmith, Ontario https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kathy%20and%20Donna |
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My mare foundered in May 2018 and had a rough slow recovery period until December of that year. She is IR and Cushings. Lots of patience, good nutrition as recommended by Dr. Kellon, and appropriate trim and time are the recipe to recovery. I began hand walking in January 2019 until March increasing time and distance, then ponied her a few times a week for early April until I rode her for the first time. Fast forward to August 2019 and we are riding up to 100 miles a month, we climb mountains, and we go up to 5 hours at ride. I pick my area of fast work and boot her on all 4 feet when footing is rocky as is most areas where I ride. She is happier and more fit now than I have ever seen her. BTW she was never over weight when this journey started. Hold on to hope, always -- Cheryl and Jewel Oct 2018 Port Alberni BC Canada https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cheryl%20and%20Jewel https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=81063 |
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ferne fedeli
You and Donna are mere "kids"!!! Ha!
-- Ferne Fedeli 2007 No. California Regional Members Database Coordinator - see who is near you Add your contact information if you want to help out/meet ECIR members in your area.
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You have no idea how happy I am to hear this!!
-- Chemelle Hillsboro, OR 2019 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chemelle%20and%20Andy https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=94380 |
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jen@...
What a wonderful update!! Thank you for sharing!
-- - Jennifer Haunschild Sept 2019, Edmond, OK Space Cowboy - 12.1h Welsh Pony: PPID Space Cowboy Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jennifer%20and%20Space%20Cowboy Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/Casehistory/album?id=96011
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grandmalynn44
Thanks to everyone who gave information on the rideability of their older PPID horse. All of your input was very encouraging. Important to not give in to vague worries which I’m prone to do. I’m going to retest Bodie to make sure his PPID is well controlled and feet are comfortable, and then just ride! An older horse has so many advantages. They’ve been there, done that. You’ve learned their quirks and they’ve learned yours. So many positives.
-- Lynn McKechnie N. California, May, 2011 Mica: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Lynn%20and%20Mica |
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Hi Lynn,
You two could well have another 10 wonderful years together. I like your plan.😊 -- Lorna Cane
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Deb Walker
Scotty is 35-40. I sold his saddle. Sold his bridle. Sold his pad, cinch, bit, etc. Maybe I shouldn't have? But I figured IF he recovered from all he has been through, he deserves to just rest and be my pasture/dry lot ornament.
My granddaughter, soon to be 15, has been asking to ride/and/or sit on him. I tried from day 1 to make her a horse person, and failed, although I have some pretty awesome videos of her with Scotty. I haven't made up my mind, but she has some issues, and therapeutic horsemanship could help her. Taking it a day at a time. But I still can't believe the last time I rode Scotty was the last time. Quote: "Of all the things I have to accept in life, I pray that God will never let me know the last time I ride a horse." -- Deb and Scotty I/R, PPID Pecatonica Illinois, May 13, 2019 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Deb%20and%20Scotty Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90619 |
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Everything I have read explains the value of keeping older horses active, according to their abilities.
It's definitely worth considering, in my opinion. -- Lorna Cane
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