Step counter
Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Thanks Lavinia
-- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Damaris
To count “steps” it must be placed on leg. It won’t count steps if attached on the head because the head moves all over the place just looking around and going up and down. GPS is more of a location device. Read Dr Bowkers full article recently posted in the files to learn how. -- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Damaris
Hi Pat,
My horses are on a grassless track 24/7 and I belong to a horse track group where this was discussed. For those trackers that tell you where you've been (and don't just count steps) some people placed them in a little drawstring bag and braided the bag into the mane or tail. Apparently this worked really well. I'm planning to do that to see what results I get at some point when I buy one of those trackers. Hope this helps. -- Damaris January 2018, Vaud, Switzerland Wayra Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Damaris%20and%20Wayra
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
The entire article has been uploaded to the Files here.
-- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR |
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Pat, click on PDF.
-- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Thanks Lorna. It only opened the abstract. There were 15 pages more in the report.
-- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Thank you for finding & sharing the link Lorna! -- Joy and Willie (aka FLS Boxcar Willie) Nevada County, CA - 2019 Case history: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Joy%20and%20Willie Willie's photo album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=242526 |
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
Thanks, Lorna.
-- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR |
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Received Jan 21,2020
Published February 13,2020 https://www.ecronicon.com/ecve/ECVE-05-00214.php -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Nancy
Dr. Bowker just published this study February 13, 2020. Called Twenty-Four Hour Movement Patterns of Domestic Horses on Pasture and in Stalls as Assessed by a Step Activity Monitor. -- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Maxine
The pedometer goes one leg under bandage to keep safely in place. Can’t count steps from head. -- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Pat, this is an interesting discussion. I’d like to know how much my horses move around too. But I wouldn’t like to leave a halter on a horse in paddock turnout without supervision, in the case of using a GPS. I’ve seen ‘breakaway’ halters not break away. Unless of course you have no obstacles for them to snag it on.
Canberra, Australia 2010 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles
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Hi Pat
I have a copy (I think -- on my other computer) and can put it in the files. Absent that, we can find it on pub med as Dr Bowker indicates. I need to be reminded of the title. Thanks -- Nancy C in NH ECIR Moderator 2003 ECIR Group Inc. President/Treasurer 2019-2020 Join us at the 2020 NO Laminitis! Conference, October 23 - 25, Harrisburg, PA |
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Dr. Bowker sent me an email yesterday of a study he did and just recently published and gave me permission to share.
Here it is. I copied and pasted so hope the PDF file will open for everyone. I see the PDF file didn’t transfer with the email. Anyone know how I can do it? It’s a 15 page fine print document. “Hi Pat here is step counter data etc. just published it but did work 15 years ago. bottom line is that (1) horses on pasture 24 hours move more than any other condition. (stall 24 hours, half stall and half pasture etc). [ 11 of my own horses that had been together for several years so they knew each other and had their pecking orders etc. ] BUT THE HORSES ON PASTURE HAVE MORE STEP DURING THAN DAY TIME (NOT DURING NITE TIME) THAN IF THEY ARE IN A STALL FOR A FEW HOURS. STALL SEEMS TO INHIBIT MOVEMENT. (2) in stall they do not have any steps at all hardly. (2) depends upon when put them in; (1) i put two halflings together; they were sisters; together for years (7-9 yo) BUT were new to surroundings; paddock was 20 yards x 40 yards) and there movements were very high (innterms of numbers of step per hour) for first year (recorded 3 + times during year). after one year they calmed down to that on pasture (with stall). my interpretation is that they were very nervous even when placed together with sight of other horses. (they just paced paddock day and nite)' you can send paper to whomever as is on line, free ete.
thanx, bob b”
Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Lorna
She isn’t wearing them at all as far as I can see. Soft ground on the island from rain plus she’s sore most of the time after trims. -- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Pat Gauvreau <pgauvreau@...>
Sherry
i want to know how much my mare walks in her pasture in a 24 hour period. -- Pat and Savannah Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada January 2018 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Pat%20and%20Savannah Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=22028&p=pcreated,,,50,2,0,0 |
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Sherry Morse
Gail, For what it's worth I ride with a GPS all the time and with my Garmin I keep it set to bike mode and for Endomondo (which is an app on the phone) I use the riding mode. Both of them are fairly accurate for mileage as well as pace as long as they have satellite reception.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 |
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Sherry Morse
Pat, They've used GPS trackers on the New Bolton pony herd to track how far they walk in a day. I believe they just attached them to the halters but to find out for sure I would suggest you contact Dr. McDonald - her contact information is here: https://www.vet.upenn.edu/research/academic-departments/clinical-studies-new-bolton-center/centers-laboratories/research-laboratory/havemeyer-equine-behavior-research-lab. As an aside, the average - off the top of my head - was close to 20 miles a day for mares.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 |
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I can't answer this, Pat.
But I would think her hoof marks would give you a good idea of where she goes. The depth/degree of wear of the tracks will hint at how often she goes where. Maybe this doesn't fit your footing situation,though. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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The newer one's might work. But they will significantly overstate the steps. They record acceleration and deceleration. Likely, a horse will quadruple. I know this because of issues with pacemakers and people riding horses with them. If you have a pacemaker that actually sets its own pace (as opposed to just being a simple "jumper cable" between chambers of the heart) you cannot ride a horse because it will way over boost the heart beats because it thinks you are running at top speed.. My guess is a multiple of four, at least.
-- Gail Russell 8/30/2008
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