Date
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New Poll - Important #poll-notice
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As you all know, we do not consider fructan - a component of NSC and WSC - when evaluating the likely safety of a hay but recommendations to limit NSC rather than ESC are still very common elsewhere.
If you have a hay analysis and are safely (no laminitis flares) feeding the hay, please answer the question: What is the NSC of your hay? [NSC = WSC + starch]
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Sherry Hite
Do you want those of us who soak our hay to respond with our “after soaking” numbers?
-- Sherry & Pepper, August 2015, No. Calif
Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Pepper Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=5798 .
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Kim Rice <kimberztaz@...>
13.6 prior to soaking but found I have to soak it for him.
-- Kim R, Lafayette, CA 2019 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kim%20and%20Shomee
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Hi Dr. Kellon - I'm waiting to get my latest hay analysis - i will respond as soon as i get the results.
-- Lynn Beavercreek, Ohio March 2018 Relevante Case History Relevante Photo Album Ω
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Tanna
No recent tests but put in a vote for over 12% using hay analysis for a time when my mare tested as compensated IR.
-- Tanna April 2019, (Yahoo Group member 2008)
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Just a reminder here that we do NOT want your ESC + starch number. This poll wants to know WSC + starch, which is NSC.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Just a note to encourage everyone reading this to consider taking this poll and as a reminder, you need to add WSC and starch to get NSC.
-- Kathleen (KFG in KCMO) Director and Research Advisor, ECIR Group Inc. Missouri, USA, 2005 https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=3-I7UI0AAAAJ
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Dr. Kellon and I seem to be traveling on the same plane... :-) But seriously, folks...
-- Kathleen (KFG in KCMO) Director and Research Advisor, ECIR Group Inc. Missouri, USA, 2005 https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=3-I7UI0AAAAJ
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gypsylassie
Dr. Kellon, ever since Chappie was diagnosed I've had to buy hay from several different sources to get enough each year. Out of 6 different hay loads from 2017 thru 2020, there were 3 with WSC + Starch over 10%. Would
you like separate votes for the 3 above 10% and one to represent the below 10% loads? Chappie has been fine with all of them.
Laura K Chappie & Beau over the bridge
2011 N IL
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Helen Connor
-- Helen Connor and Blessing (IR/PPID) Scappoose, OR Member since May 2017 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Helen%20and%20Blessing Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=6847
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Although this year's hay is reasonable - NSC is 11.5% (ESC 8%) - last year's hay was high at 15.2% (ESC 6%) and no laminitis issues.
-- Jodi June 2018 NW Wyoming Yankee Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Jodi%20and%20Yankee Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=54386
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gypsylassie
It won't let me vote more than once, so I used the over 12% hay vote.
Laura K Chappie & Beau over the bridge
2011 N IL
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