1. ECIR | Main
  2. Topics

vit e,

Sandy Gazzard
 

hi, im looking form some vit e for my hay only diet mare. she has minerals, and lysine for top line. with salt brewers yest, .some I have seen has iron in them,or and alfalfa as a base.
many thanks
 
--
sandy
, joined 27th January 2020. location. Cornwall-England

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

If you use a powdered vitamin E you should mix it into oil before feeding to improve absorption.  Many people just use human gelcaps of vitamin E in oil (not in glycerin).
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001

Allison
 

Dr. Kellon, what is the concern with feeding the human Vit E gelcaps made of glycerin? I didn't know this was bad, and have been feeding the Nature's Bounty brand of Vit E gelcaps for months now. 
--
Allison in Ontario 2020

Sonseeahray Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Allison%20and%20Sonseeahray
Keegan Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Allison%20and%20Keegan
Keegan XRays and Hooves Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=255699&p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Martha McSherry
 

Allison, I don’t think the glycerin is harmful but vitamin E still needs oil for best absorption.  You would need to add oil along with those gel caps.  Most suppliers sell gel caps with oil and well as gel caps with glycerin.  You just need to be careful about which one you choose.  This is what I use and it contains soybean oil as well as glycerin.  Maybe yours has both as well?  The glycerin acts as a plasticizer, which probably makes it a preservative of sorts.
--
Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response
July 2012 
 
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)

Martha and Logo


 
 

Allison
 

AH!!! Ok I'm alright then. Fewf. Thought I had majorly screwed up LOL. This is what I feed: https://well.ca/products/natures-bounty-100-preservative_55683.html
He gets 10 of these a day, split between 2 feedings. 
--
Allison in Ontario 2020

Sonseeahray Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Allison%20and%20Sonseeahray
Keegan Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Allison%20and%20Keegan
Keegan XRays and Hooves Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=255699&p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Caroline
 

I use Equimins vitamin E oil, it works out way cheaper than the human capsules - although they are clean and convenient.  I mix 20g into 10 days worth of linseed then it's easy to dose accurately - otherwise it's very sticky and almost impossible to measure accurately!
Progressive Earth and Forage plus do vit E in silica - easy t dose but you'd need to add oil
--
Caroline
Spalding, Lincolnshire, UK
September 2019
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Caroline%20and%20Evan
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=231916

Starshine Ranch
 

I use a powdered Vit E from Pure Bulk and I did call them about needing oil.  They said the oil that is in the cup of ground flax seed that I also give them provides more than enough oil to make the E bioavailable.
--
Linda  CA  in 2020

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Linda,

That's only likely true if you feed nothing but the flax with the E.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001

LJ Friedman
 

This is a perfect example of how we often get incorrect information from suppliers. When we bring our comments to the group ,we get the actual way it works in real life.
--
LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 

LJ Friedman
 

in usa, the cost of 1- 400 iu capsule in oil can be .025 cents   i use 8 per day   . cost  .20 cents us.  many use 5 capsules per day   cost .13 cents per day
--
LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 

Starshine Ranch
 

Thank you Dr. Kellon.  I am checking further into this.  I never tried to feed whole capsules... thought they would eat better if powdered.  Also, when figuring the cost of the capsules, the least expensive are the DL-Alpha tocopheral which is the synthetic version... the D-Alpha tocopheral is the natural vitamin E and I was told that with the synthetic vit E one only gets about 1/2 the nutrients... that you have to take the natural E to get it all.  Do you know about this?
--
Linda  CA  in 2020

Lorna Cane
 

Hi Linda, 

I used to feed my herd of 10 the capsules in their feed. Just tossed them in. No objections voiced.

--

Lorna  in Eastern  Ontario
2002
Check out FAQ : https://www.ecirhorse.org/FAQ.php

Tracy
 

I use human capsules too. If he doesn’t eat them at breakfast- I just puncture it at dinner time and put it on his handful of stuff I use for his Prascend in the evening  

I use ones from Walmart, 1000 iu, d-alpha form and 60 capsules are about $8. 
--
Tracy and Salsa (1999 model year Paso Fino)
Middle TN USA, September 2019
Case History  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Tracy%20and%20Salsa
Photos https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=95827

Cheryl Oickle
 

Jewel is fussy and sniffed out the vitamin e capsules immediately! I toss them in now with her soaked hay cubes and salt which is pre prepared the night before.  Capsules partially dissolve before she eats her cubes and tada! 
I buy the vit e at walmart here in Canada. Cheap and encapsulated in oil already.

--
Cheryl and Jewel
Oct 2018
Port Alberni BC Canada
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cheryl%20and%20Jewel
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=81063

gypsylassie
 

I'm not sure if this has been answered already, but I believe the available Vit E listed on the synthetic capsules takes the difference between natural and synthetic E into account.   There have been messages over the years here stating that using the synthetic is ok.   I throw a couple extra in the feed tub as insurance, but that's just me.🙂.  I use the 400 size (with oil) and Chappie eats them in his bucket meal.   
Laura K Chappie & Beau over the bridge
2011 N IL

Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Laura is correct.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001

Starshine Ranch
 

Oh wow!  Thank you again, Dr. Kellon... I've always been suspicious of the synthetic E and now it makes sense.
--
Linda  CA  in 2020

LJ Friedman
 

What do you mean you’ve been suspicious of vitamin  E synthetic? What makes sense now?
--
LJ Friedman  Nov 2014 Vista,   Northern  San Diego, CA

Jesse and majestic ‘s Case History 
Jesse's Photos

 

gypsylassie
 

Have you read all the posts in this thread, LJ?    Her suspicion was only that the synthetic E wouldn't be as potent as the natural.   I answered that the available Vit E listed on the label  takes into account the difference between synthetic and natural E.  Dr Kellon validated that, which is what "makes sense". 
 Laura K Chappie & Beau over the bridge
2011 N IL

1 - 19 of 19